Reid GOP Plan DOA GOP You Havent Even Heard It Yet

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    Old scumbag harry says the GOP plan is dead on arrival that it will not pass. The only thing is the GOP plan has not been completed yet. If this is the games liberal dem want to play and its our way or no way shut it down

    "The White House and its Democratic allies in Congress moved to shoot down an emerging House Republican budget proposal before it even left the ground, blasting the late-breaking plan as a "partisan" product that would imperil efforts to meet the looming debt-ceiling deadline.

    Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid turned a deaf ear, declaring categorically that it "won't pass the Senate."

    But Republicans, who say their counter-proposal is still being worked out, claimed the details of their plan are not so far off from a bipartisan approach being crafted in the Senate. Both plans would fund the government through mid-January and raise the debt ceiling through February -- a key difference is the House framework would delay a controversial medical device tax in ObamaCare. Republicans urged Democrats to give it a chance, and questioned why they would preemptively reject it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...bt-ceiling-government-funding-in-response-to/
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    Harry is just carrying Obama's water, he has no desire or Authority to negotiate.
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    he won't even allow a vote, there is no interest in resolving this crisis unless dems get something out of it
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    So when is Boehner going to allow a vote on the Senate proposal?

    BTW, it looks like it is all moot as the current reports are that the Republicans might not have the votes in the House to pass their own bill.

    Dana Bash for CNN:

    Ruh roh. House repubs don't have the votes for the plan they sold to caucus this am.Top house aide confirms to me they're "struggling"

    Just asked @GOPLeader cantor if he has votes for their own gop plan answer: "discussions are ongoing"
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    Reid represents the worst of American politics.
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    Boehner has the same problem he's always has had - if he loses ~30-40 GOP votes on anything, he has to either accomodate them by going further right (meaning it will almost certainly die in the Senate) or ask for Democratic help, who are going to want to deal (i.e. go left) rather than bail him out for free. My guess is the House won't be able to pass anything.
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    Welp, Republicans can't get the votes. From NRO's Washington editor (who based on his publication's Conservative credentials has had better access than anybody):

    Confirmed: tonight's vote is dead

    “The votes aren’t there,” says a leadership aide. “We’ve been unable to get people around this strategy.”

    What killed it: late afternoon mtgs at Cap w/ conservative members and leadership. Firehose of cold water
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    Dems aren't into reading. Reid should just pass the bill so we can find out what's in it a la Pelosi.
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    Turns out it was DOA in the House too.

    I'm actually not sure that the House is going to be able to get anything that originates in their chamber passed. The disagreement within the GOP is too big to craft anything. Anything resembling compromise the Tea Party is going to go batsheet over, anything the Tea Party wants is a non-starter anywhere else and most of the rest of the House GOP realizes that.

    Likely result? Probably that the Senate moves on their plan without the House, and Boehner either brings the Senate plan to the floor or the House Democrats plus 17 House Republicans (or more, that's just the minimum they need) will bring a privileged motion to consider the Senate plan and it will pass with a fair number of House Republican votes, but on the backs of House Democrats.
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    You are so partisan it's unbelievable
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    For that comment? That was an absolute factual observation. The votes aren't there to get that "compromise" out of the House even, so whether the Senate considers it a non-starter or not frankly doesn't really matter.
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    Ben,
    I have observed your posts for a long period of time and just calling it like I see it. You're not alone for a poster claiming to be a republican.
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    If Ben is a pub then I am Obama. This government is so broken even the liberals on this board has to agree in that this pile of garbage needs to be shut down and start over.
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    The GOP plan did die in the House. But apparently pointing that out is a terrible thing to do. If you really want to be non-partisan, it appears, you need to blame Harry Reid, majority leader in the Senate, for the actions of the GOP House.
    Or something like that.

    link
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    Ben - a Republican!! LOL!
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    I don't know why most of the people posting on this thread care if they compromise or not. Just shut the whole thing down. Start over.
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    Well, gman, if you have been observing Ben's posts, then you probably would have remembered that he said he voted for McCain. So what does Sen. McCain have to say about this little mess that the House Republicans have gotten themselves into? Let's look shall we?

    Sounds like Ben and the guy he voted for are pretty much on the same page.

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