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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by swampspring, Oct 6, 2013.

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    Brown has ran straight into his offensive line or defenders since he got here. His poor numbers aren't a surprise. I still play him though because I think he could be a decent short yardage back. Matt is disappointing me as he sometimes doesn't follow his blocking and other times doesn't see the hole.
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    agreed - the OL is a big part of the problem. Koehne and Garcia have been pretty bad so far - really hope they can pick things up a bit. It's impossible to establish a successful smashmouth running identity with a sub par line.
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    Our QB getting sacked went way down when Murphy came on. Obviously, our online hasn't changed. Jones, for a big guy, doesn't break many tackles. He reminds me of Dashawn Wynn.

    Jones and brown both had more space to run than Collins. So far, jones and brown both seem average. IMO, an explosive RB will greatly upgrade our O
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    Agreed. To play what we are led to believe is our "style" you have to have a tough defense and really solid STs and a decent offense. Our kicking game is abysmal- a really poor product to put on the field. We can't put a kick off in the EZ and apparently can't count on our FG kickers to make 40 yards consistently. We could easily lose a game because of the kicking part of our STs. Sorry Coach Muschamp but that HAS to be addressed. And no, benching a kicker is not coaching or development, it's a last resort.

    Completely agree. Two back sets, one up the gut, the other takes the swing pass.... something for crying out loud. It's embarrassing to run into a brick wall until it hurts. You're only playing into your opponent's game plan of protecting the middle. Is Pease doing what he thinks is best, following orders, or unable to develop a full compliment of plays?
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    Taylor has great vision see holes & set up his blocks with his cuts he's very quick
    but not blazingly fast..fred said kelvin better then him at this point except speed
    In his career....& kt already have nasty jump cut abilities. .just give him
    A chance and stop hiding these freshmen 5 plays a game will build the confidence
    And & get feet wet also....plus he goin up against the best defense in practice
    So the game will be easier..
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    Die, seems to me that some of the short kickoffs have to be designed, with the hope that the receiver will muff up (happened last night) or we can pin them deep. Could be wrong.

    But the backs diving into the non-holes, while not seeing other gaps opening, is a little too much, too often.

    I do give Brown props for spelling Jones last night; looks like it was needed, and it helped . . . a little bit.
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    Joking, right? :)


    Right, I refuse to accept that you keep a player on the bench until he's ready to play the entire game.
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    With our kick off coverage being outstandingly last night, why in the hell would we kick it thru the end zone? Many times last need arky started inside the 20 and one time their freshman stepped out inside the 5.
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    There is a goal to those runs up the middle, not just to gash big yardage, It's to tire them out, as well as pull them in. Did you notice our receivers were wide open on most of their catches -- why? They were defending the run inside.

    Agree completely about the kicking game -- missing extra points more than once a season is just unpardonable. Coach needs to get all the soccer players in the area onto the practice field and see if there's a walk-on among them.
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    Exactly. I would like to see us getting more runs on the edges with some sprint option, boots and naked boots, some of the perimeter runs to Showers out of the inverted stuff. But when teams commit to stopping the interior run game the way they did, then leave man coverage behind it (like Miami and Arky both did), we have proven willing and able to exploit it.
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    Touches, yes, but not carries. He had one for -1 yard last night. He is definitely not the answer to our problems last night. His role is a to be a receiver out of the backfield and a RB on gimmick plays. He hits the hole cleanly enough, but he gives up 20 pounds to Brown and 30 to Jones. He would have been crushed last night trying to run inside. If we do continue relying on those 30% of our plays where Murphy throws, Showers is seriously needed. I don't know why it took so long to put him in last night. We need somebody with good hands that can get some serious YAC. He's the guy. Not sure what they were thinking throwing the ball to DRob behind the line of scrimmage. Don't if anybody could have escaped that tackle, but Showers would have been a better choice for that kind of play. Much more elusive in a situation like that.
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    There are a couple factors that play into our running game. It may seem ineffective at times early in the game when the defense is fresh but it will wear most defenses down some and a defense that is not deep in their front 7 will start to give up yardage in chunks later in the game. That is part of the philosophy CWM wants, as we mature and gel on offense they will open things up some. The goal is to have a long scoring drive. It keeps our defense fresh and wears their's down.

    The other factor is o line play, early in the game last night Arky was manhandling our d line and linebackers. Our guys couldn't get off of blocks to make a tackle. Compare that to our line who seem to let people into the backfield that hit our backs. The backs make the special plays at those times if the can get loose an gain yardage. But our line doesn't hold their blocks well push them downfield or out of the hole very well. They are improving, but the ceiling isn't very high for them. They will wear out some lines, but not all.

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    lol - our running game is not designed to gain yards or score points. :zombie:
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    Different story every game. Early in the season, especially the miami game, the RBs missed the holes. In this game, not many holes to be found and it got worse once Harrison was ejected.

    Guess there is a reason Taylor doesn't play, but when there are no holes, running straight ahead into the pile won't get it done, need some moves, quick feet, etc. Also, have to assume the RBs can't catch or we would see a lot more passes to them in space. The only passes to backs that I recall have been to the FBs.
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    Maybe it's gone to their heads that our coach preaches how physical they are, because they are anything but physical.
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    O-line or RB's ? I'd say a little of both. The talent is there but they can't seem to get on the same page.

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