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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Apr 24, 2014.
Isn't Napolitano, in this quote, say the same thing that YOU are saying?
I was, of course, speaking about the BLM's overreaction to the situation... That's the discourse, although there are many in here still not getting that.
Oh of course, when I see the words "his right to representation and/or legal defense," I'm supposed to somehow realize that you mean "why do BLM rangers have guns" notwithstanding that it has absolutely nothing to do with a "right to representation" or a "legal defense."
Seems to me it would have been easily taken care of if he had just paid his fees. Or am I am missing something here?
I think this lady has made some very good observations and put this matter in a proper context.
From World Net Daily
America's newest hero: Meet the real Cliven Bundy
Some were calling the OWS crowd heroes too, when, IMO, their actions were by far worse than anything Bundy said.
Strangely, rape, robbery and even defecation on a police car can all be overlooked. But when a person utters a single word... Strange set of morals some of you have in here... Strange indeed.
I don't think it is, and no I don't think that's what should happen.
Or he can't be racist because he hires black people, treats them fairly, and befriends them.
Pretty similar Dave, and good point. Both sides back the wrong people at times and have to back off, or in the case of some, they don't even back-pedal - they just deflect or change the subject.
It was a joke. One I thought people on this board could relate to.
I have no position on this other than it does seem like a bit of overkill on the Fed's part. I doubt many will defend David Koresh as person, but some might take issue with the tactics there as well. In all, a lot of jackassery on both sides here.
I hope by "they" you don't mean conservatives as a collective. Most of the ones I've listened to on the radio have panned him from the beginning, while taking issue with what they see as a bit of overkill by the Feds with respect to the mobilization of snipers, assault teams, etc. Seems to me that "your side" wants to hang this around the neck of "their side" despite the fact that "their side" was never all in in the first place.
Ah, the football mentality. Gotta love it.
By they, I mean the conservatives in particular that have built him up as some sort of patriotic hero or defended him or those that built him up consistently. Obviously, we have had some conservatives around here (cj and oklahoma come to mind in particular) and in national media (Krauthammer said no thanks on supporting the guy I believe) who have panned him from the beginning and certainly do not deserve to be lumped into my "they." But there were fairly major figures, including some relatively major politicians (Sen. Heller from Nevada and Rand Paul immediately come to mind) and major media figures (Sean Hannity is obviously the biggest but a variety of other right-wing opinion journalists as well), who deserve to have this guy hung around their necks.
Only if you consider black people as American as white people.
It's not so much anyone is supporting the dude, it's that they are sick and tired of a government that runs roughshod over the people they are suppose to serve. A little forgotten thing by the left and the Big Governmaent is My GOD crowd.
Funny how the rule of law doesn't apply to immigration-but it sure as hell does to this guy.
Given this guy skirted the law for more than a decade that's a tenuous point to make.
Cold hard truth is that most of the people who've been killed by American servicemen have been enemies of one form or another. I don't think any of us should weep over the death of someone who wouldn't blink an eye about killing you--or anyone you care about--if they had the chance.
Do people sometimes get caught up in war and innocents die? Yes. It's a regrettable fact of life. And yet, for every time that happens, the US does try and make it right one way or the other (either by apologizing, paying reparations, etc). Does AQ so much even issue an apology for killing of innocents? Even when they kill fellow Muslims in one of their mass-bombings, they don't apologize.
And did you/do you go up to your dad, grandfather, etc and call them "killers" and "morally reprehensible?" Something tells me not--I tend to think you're a better person than that.
And if you refrained from doing that to your father, grandfather, and persons that you know today, I think you have the character as a person to refrain from doing it in other venues either.
Cold hard truth is that America's failing our veterans. So many commit suicide every day and it's a tragedy. You don't have to agree with their mission or the things they did. But try to remain respectful of condemning them.
Biggest failing was sending them off on a PNAC fantasy (Iraq).