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Discussion in 'The GatorTail Pub' started by exiledgator, Sep 9, 2013.
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My friend likes Novack, I told her Nadal would win.LOL
Yeah, Djokovic had been playing brilliantly in the tourney, put Rafa has been out of his mind. Rafa owns him like he owns all the top players. GOAT. May not top Fed's 17, but still the GOAT
I'm going with Federer despite Nadal's record against him. In Federer's prime he won 17 grand slams and was in 7 more finals. From 2005-2012 the earliest he exited a grand slam tourney was in the QF.
Too early to make the call as Rafa is in the middle of his run, but he was out of his mind today.
my friend calls Rafa a butt sniffer LOL, I like him though I think he is an excellent player and not a butt sniffer.
Was never a Federer fan. I think he benefited from weak competition during his run.
don't know about a butt sniffer, but i do know he needs to go back to the capri pants. he constantly picked his underwear out of his crack in the couple of matches i watched him in.
Mid career for sure. That was always the knock on his stature: that he never had his great rival ala McEnroe/Lendl, Becker/Edberg, Agassi/Sampras etc. Then Nadal came along and gave him his great rivalry. Fed still got slams, but alas, seldom few v Rafa.
Rafa / Djokovic will prove to be one of the best in the Open era. One more match and they'll have met more than any other pairing and they're still young (27/26). I do think Novac has room to improve. If Rafa improves - fahgetaboudit. If he stays healthy, he'll beat Fed's 17 slams.
Dude's got more idiosyncrasies than Nomar Garciaparra.
Butt, hair behind ear, nose, hair behind other ear. Sometimes there's a shirt tug at the shoulders, too.
He also does this crazy head banging move to get his hair in place to put his bandana on.
He has to take towels from ball boys in a particular order.
He won't step on single's sideline on change of sides.
on and on....
That's why she doesn't like him. I like him just fine.
Was just about to say this. He's off the deep end with his serve and return serve routine. Sharapova doesn't step on cracks either. Crazy.
Of course, I'll never wear the gator shirt I wore last Saturday again. So there's that.
IMO, with such a relatively short career--I'll take Bjorn Borg over ANY of them. Without hesitation.
Saw him play in two different matches back in late 70's. Yes, the game is different now than then--but his ability to be THE most consistent and accurate shot maker I've ever seen was uncanny. He was far ahead of his time, and his records support his stature in the tennis world.
IMO, he was without question the best ever.
I loved Borg but he was a bit like Urban, as soon as someone passed him he quit.
Also never won a career slam, so I can't say he's the GOAT. Top 5 possibly but not atop.
It's hard to really argue this. He was an Open era guy, too, but man-oh-man has the game come a long way - and mostly because of Borg (and racquet tech, of course). He was certainly ahead of his time. He practically invented the modern game.
Borg was a great all around player, but one of the reasons he won so much was his physical conditioning - which at the time was far better than the field's. He holds no such edge against modern player's. Would have been great to see him come along 10-15 years later or more.
but that isn't even close to being the same. mine is all ready burned.
I brought the Gators bad luck by playing them in NCAA and losing.
Nadal and Federer and neck and neck in my GOAT conversation.
I also have Sampras in the mix, as I do Lendl. Had Lendl beaten either Cash or Becker at Wimbledon, he would have been among the most dominant players of all times. But that was his Achilles.
Djoko could prove to be the best of the bunch, but he was a head case early in his career and still sometimes seems to lose focus.
I thought Novak may have put that behind him, but he totally quit on Nadal Monday night. That was looking to be an epic match, but when Rafa stole the third from him with those great come-back games, you could just see Djokovic deflate. I told my wife Nadal would take the fourth set 6-0. I missed it by one game (6-1).
All the other greats listed in this thread would NEVER do what Novak did. I agree, I think he has a higher ceiling than any player, and he's come a long way mentally, but he's no ice man. He's no killer. Fine by me. I don't really like him...