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    If you wanted to buy one rifle to keep in your home what would it be? Not including any handguns or shotguns what would be your choice of rifles that are easy to maneuver with in a home. I would think it would be helpful to have a shorter barrel and use smaller ammo such as 5.56 or something similar.

    If the list is around five (or even more) it would be helpful.
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    a 22 is very easy
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    I think I would like something with a bit more umph than a .22 Bill.
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    30 0 6 - just recently sold this-had for 40+ years and no longer deer hunt

    kept the 22 as it is easy for my wife to handle

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    I had a 30-30 lever action I traded for a pistol sometime back. Have a shotgun and am now looking at rifles.

    I love .22s for target practice. My father was amazing with a single shot .22. The man could have taken a 30-06 and killed someone a long ways away. I never could match him shooting even when he got older.
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    For self defense in terms of caliber I would go with a .223 round, this will really open up your options as well. Inside the home you have got to love the option of a collapsible stock. The AR platforms additionally gives lots of nice options.
    Some other options are mini-14, mini-30, Winchester 94 Trapper, Puma 92, Marlin 1894, MM1 Carbine – .30. Puma is a bad ass .357 lever action.
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    It's tough to beat an AR-15 for ease of operation, and 5.56 with the right projectile provides plenty of stopping power for home defense. If you want a bigger bullet there are plenty of offerings in 300 Blackout or other larger bore rounds. Also like the idea of the M1 Carbine, lightweight and very handy little rifle, but definitely pay to get a GI carbine, not a Universal (very early Universals are fine, the later ones use proprietary parts and are nowhere near as reliable as the GI models).
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    Agree 100%, I love the CAR collapsible stock for turning corners. Truth be told I'm really an HK fan, but there we're talking serious dollars.
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    I love my sbr in .300 blkout.
    Lever action in .357 is also nice
    If it is strictly for home defense you might want to look at the 9mmcarbine s being offered. LoneWolf G9 carbine and the Rock River Arms LAR9 are 2I have shot and liked well enough. Ammo is cheap and everyone in the house can use it.
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    Love this one but if my wife found out I had spent over $3K on a rifle she would probably shoot me with it.


    http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/mr556_general.asp
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    Hall, check this out. Obviously .357 is a hefty round but you can go .38 which has always been a great, especially for practice.

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    • Model # - PUM 56008
    • Type - Lever action repeater
    • Caliber - .357 Magnum/.38 Special
    • Magazine capacity - 8 cartridges
    • Barrel length - 16” (round)
    • Twist rate - 1-30”
    • Sights - Adjustable semi-buckhorn open rear, blade front
    • Metal Finish - blued (stainless steel optional)
    • Stock - Walnut finished hardwood, matte finish
    • Overall length - 33.5”
    • Weight – 5 lbs., 9 oz.
    • Length of pull - 13”
    • Manufactured in - Brazil (formerly) or Italy (2009 onwards)
    • 2009 MSRP - $613

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/puma_92_carbine.htm
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    Yeah, I bought mine a long time ago when the where much cheaper and long before I was married.
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    For a little more "oomph" .300 AAC Blackout would be on the list too - designed for the AR platform, basically a 308 bullet in a necked up .223 / 5.56 case. Ammo can be tougher to find than some of the more common calibers though.

    If you're looking for a home defense gun, be aware that pretty much any rifle cartridge is going to present potential over-penetration problems though. Most pistol rounds will shoot through drywall like butter, that only gets worse when you speed the bullet up.

    For a "keeping in the house gun" I would strongly disagree with a 30-06 (no offense Bill). I use it for deer hunting, but unless you're looking to shoot a home intruder two houses down through the wall, it's just way too much power to have in a gun you might use inside - unless you're planning on putting armored steel inside your walls it will shoot through pretty much anything your house is made of, and you'll go deaf if you ever have to shoot it inside.

    I wouldn't go much above the .223/5.56 or 300 blackout level for a house gun, and if maneuverability etc. are concerns I would probably stay in the AR platform with the 16 inch barrel (shortest it can legally be without a short barreled rifle tax stamp) and collapsible stock. If you really wanted shorter but without a tax stamp, you can get an AR pistol (7.5" - 10.5" barrels are most common lengths) and the Sig "stabilizing brace" (it goes over the buffer tube and is designed to be strapped onto your arm and, at least under their current interpretation, ATF therefore doesn't consider it a stock - or your gun an SBR - even though it looks exactly like a short hard rubber stock).
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    Might as well have a pellet gun
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    Having been shot by both a .22 and a pellet gun....I can say without a doubt that you are wrong. A .22 in the right hands, with some practice can be devastating.
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    However, it is still not near the top of my list for defense.....
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    Yeah, over penetration is certainly concern and agree that a .223 is really the limit. You don't want to be sending your neighbor any presents. For an actual home defense situation I would use .223 hollow points for that exact reason.
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    Hey I too was shot with both, in the leg and butt. I can say without a doubt they weren't that different.
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    Here is a real good review on the .300 AAC Blackout round

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/07/foghorn/ammunition-review-300-aac-blackout/
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    I love the AR-7 survival rifle
    http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/

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