PrezBO considering Executive order to raise minimum wage

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    Is this the one where he gives up even the pretense of executing existing legislation altogether?

    Problem is, who would stop him, if we are waiting on GOP party leadership to risk being called racist and obstructionist by suing to prevent it?
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    I'd say that headline is a bit overstated given the content of the article.
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    "for federal contractors" is a pretty huge part of the story.
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    Well, at least that would probably pass the smell test for legality. It is idiotic policy of course, and just more demonstrated willingness to throw taxpayer money around like a mogul and like it was actually his.
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    I'm 100% confident they've had the discussion. How could you possibly think otherwise? We are living in a post Constitutional America.
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    The discussion of raising the minimum wage for federal contractors? Yeah, the article seems to indicate that.
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    The story here is obviously the use of the EO, thereby circumventing the legislative process, NOT about the minimum wage or government contractors...

    I bet you guys are a hoot to watch when an illusionist gets your attention...
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    Does the "legislative process" determine the compensation rates or adjustments thereof for federal contractors? Serious question, because I dont know the answer there.
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    I don't know either, but I would bet that the president alone can not determine the who and how much for federal contractors...
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    I think you'd want to know before you go around talking about "circumventing the legislative process." That's just me though.
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    Probably not, but if you really think about it, this is essentially direct stimulus. After all, who's paying the difference in wage for these people?
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    It's more likely that the federal government would no longer grant contracts to businesses that did not offer that wage, rather than dictating these X companies must pay Y in minimum wage.

    Price of admission, so to speak.
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    Didn't stop you before...
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    There are a number of statutes on the subject. I'm no expert, but I think that they all tie contractor wage payment requirements to the "prevailing wage" as determined by the DOL. So Congress doesn't specify a number, but rather an administrative method for arriving at a number.

    I doubt that there is any precedent for a POTUS picking a number out of the air and decreeing "contractors must pay this amount"or "contractors will lose preference points if they don't pay this amount." If such precedent existed I would think that Obama would have issued an EO on the subject long before now.

    Some of the statutes are mentioned in this dol.gov summary:

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    It looks like McNamara states that they must pay the minimum wage set by either locality or the collective bargaining agreement, which would obviously yield to whatever the fed required.
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    As part of the public notice:

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    Which would raise these businesses costs for any non-government project they also bid on, as their cost of labor would be higher than a business not dealing with government contracts. Basically, more government intervention in business, more government creating winners and losers through inane "legislation.".
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    The Davis Bacon Act already sets minimum wages for ANY worker who works on a contract awarded by the federal government.

    If you have a government contract subjected to Davis Bacon, you WILL pay what they tell you to pay. That payroll has to be certified and is subject to audit.
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    The issue seems to be whether, notwithstanding the current statutory framework, POTUS has the authority to bypass the existing wage determination procedures and decide "what the fed requires."

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