Prez gives Congress break he does not have the authority to do

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    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/08/16/morning-bell-obama-gives-congress-obamacare-relief-illegally/

    Now, the Obama Administration says, “No problem.” Congress can keep their health care subsidies ($5,000 for individual coverage or $11,000 for family coverage) and use them in the new Obamacare exchanges.
    In a surprise to no one, the President doesn’t actually have legal authority to do that.
    Heritage’s Ed Haislmaier explained in detail how the Administration twisted its interpretation of the law to fix Congress’s little problem. As he put it, “It was bad enough that Congress had to pass the law to find out what was in it. Now, the Administration is ignoring the law when they don’t like what they find.”
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    No surprise here, this President considers himself to have supra-legislative authority. You can find a news item every week on it.
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    The King can do as he pleases, get over it.
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    Even if it is not 'surprising', it is still shocking, and shockingly unacceptable.

    Don't ever let yourselves go blind to what is, just because the rest of 'the herd' has accepted abuse as acceptable, and worse still, as Truth. (and I include myself in this admonition).

    Preserve that shocked sensation; protect it, vigilantly. There are more than enough cynics in world--not enough principled ppl, who cut through the fog, and identify the markings on the terrain, that tell us where we are and where we're going.
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    Awesome quote. Says it all.

    So long to the 'rule of law'....hello to the 'cult of personality.'

    That's neo-liberalism, for ya.
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    This is BS.
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    My question is where are the elected Pub voices on this outrageous, illegal hypocrisy? Are they afraid to speak out for fear of jeopardizing their subsidies?
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    probably here:

    link

    by the way, what's the hypocrisy?
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    Hypocrisy in that it's what's best for the American people but I get a special provision out of it.
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    You think that the ruling got congressional staffers out of Obamacare?
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    When is he getting impeached for all of his law breaking?
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    He never will, because we have turned into a rule of men and not a rule of law. It is basically the whole not wanting to make Joe take a penalty for moving his ball, because Joe is a good guy, writ large. He has more than enough eager flacks to say "hey Congress wouldn't do it, so he had to" while ignoring that what he "had to" do was nothing more than his own policy preference.

    Imagine it is 2007 and President Bush, stating that Congress had gone rogue or some such evil pablum, directed the Secretary of Education to reallocate funds to provide school vouchers. Or had directed the IRS to reimburse a portion of all social security tax for private investment by the wage earner. Because Congress had failed to act, so he had to.

    But that isn't right, is it? That wouldn't have flown for Clinton either, of course, because back then the Democrat party hadn't doubled down on de facto monarchy.
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    It has been the policy of the Executive Branch since 2001 that all actions are acceptable if they can't be prosecuted for it.
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    probably Monday morning. Boy howdy, you've really got him this time!!! (If you can only figure out for.)
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    I appreciate your vague and lazy platitude, but there really is no precedent here. Even the most mustache twirling delusions about Bush center on him lying and conspiring to get Congress to go along with him, but even at that, it goes without saying he wouldn't act without Congress. Obama has transcended that, he would never have to bother -- he would just act autocratically.
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    Yes, indeed. But some will still defend the indefensible.
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    Yes, like when he ordered his staffers to refuse to testify before Congress. That was really going along with them.
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    An action you've defended by this President, correct? You can't defend one and accuse the other, regardless of which, can you? Not and be a serious or ethical person?
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    :laugh:

    Too funny... He belongs in the private sector... will Al Gore and his band of tree-hugging extortionists.
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    still trying to understand how he can pick and choose what pieces of what laws he wants to enforce. how is that legal? immigration, drugs, labor, 0care, etc he selectively enforces the law of the land. how is that legal and in line with his oath?

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