Pope Francis: Capitalism is “a new tyranny”

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  1. chompalot
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    The Pope hits it right on the nose. I don't think the Pope is a fan of Ayn Rand's--unlike much of the Christian Right has become. The Pope and I are on the same page when it comes to believing that policy-level action is necessary to help maintain inclusion. We need to keep both our social programs and regulations strong and efficient in our mixed-economy.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/11/26/pope_francis_capitalism_is_a_new_tyranny/
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    So, you're advocating a worldwide switch to Soviet-style communism?

    Oh, yeah, I forgot. You NEVER offer up solutions. Just verbal hand grenades.
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    Please give me any system known to man where people have not been left behind. Why do I think Pope Francis was taken out of context with statists twisting his words.
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    Any perceived hand granades aren't coming from me. I'm just agreeing with what the Pope says.
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    Or what this piece claims the Pope said.
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    It looks like the Pope advocates access to quality affordable health care and a living wage. Here's what he says about this. Too bad that the Christian Right doesn't feel the same.

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    We have a minimum wage, so did the Pope define a living wage?
    What is affordable healthcare? Surly not Obamacare.
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    So a plan that causes people to lose their health insurance is not something the Pope is talking about in this instance. Even if it is just 4-5%.
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    If it looks like a duck...
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    He does not know what Capitalism is.....he is misguided, misinformed, or worse.

    Capitalism is all about "opportunities" and the "free" market.

    It is not the pursuit of money that is wrong, it is the "love" of money over people.

    If a nation practiced a combination of pure capitalism, in a republic, with a Christian foundation, there would be no imposed poverty. The only people who would be on the bottom of the income scale would be those who chose to be there (lazy, poor life choices, etc.). Poorer than others by choice.
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    That's 4-5% right now, surely to go up.
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    Pope Francis:
    If it looks like a duck...
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    Can you please dispense with the childishness?
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    What are you talking about?
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    Many more people will have health care coverage than ever before under the ACA.
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    That is something you don't know. Certainly Medicaid is going to explode but that doesn't mean more will be covered.
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    The Church explicitly rejected the core principles of socialism about 150 years ago, in the papal encyclical Rerum Novarum, and nothing here contradicts it -- it didn't endorse capitalism outright on the basis of it not being based on Christian values, but it was far, far more condemning of socialism.

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    I think he's much more of a "big picture" guy than you. I certainly don't glean some kind of endorsement for ACA or the (D) political platform here so. Pretty much standard Pope-speak if you ask me.
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    I'm sure if the Pope said Abortion is Murder and thus should be abolished you would agree with him, correct?
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    So Obama says, but what he doesn't say is it will cost them much, much more!

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