Polls Show ObamaCare Wave Building Against Senate Democrats

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    If the polls are correct the Dem are in for a very rude awaking. They made their bed and now are going to have to sleep in it. They can run but they cannot hide. They have destroyed the best health care system and millions will find they have no health ins come Jan 1st You can screw around with lots of things but when you hit people in their pocket book they dont forget

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    Recent polling shows that an election wave of anti-ObamaCare sentiment is growing, and it is not only likely to hand the GOP control of the United States Senate, but might wipe out as many as 12 Democrat seats--many of which looked safe just a few months ago.
    Back in July, Five Thirty Eight's election guru Nate Silver believed that control of the Senate was a tossup. That has all changed now that voters got their first real look at the brutal consequences of ObamaCare.

    Starting with the generic ballot that simply pits Republican lawmakers against their Democrat counterparts, the movement towards the GOP has been striking. In the Real Clear Politics average of these polls, going back as far as the beginning of the year, Democrats have consistently led by 3 to 4 points. During the government shutdown, Democrats leaped to 6 and 7 point leads. Since the disastrous rollout of ObamaCare, though, Republicans are not only in the lead by 2.5 points, they have led in every poll but one since November 10.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/03/polls-show-wave-buolding-against-senate-democrats
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    FWIW, people were talking about the Dems winning the House in a "wave" immediatly after the shutdown based on "recent polling." Unfortunately for the Dems in October, and the Pubs in November of 2013, the elections are still another year away, an eternity in politics.
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    A lot can happen between now and Nov 2014... but congress approval ratings this low is not good for the majority or incumbents.
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    and is double bad for those who supported obamacare That is a backbreaker
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    The problem is Obamacare and it's highly doubtful it's going to get any better by the election.
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    Obamacare has nowhere to go but up. As people get signed up and the glitches fall away, the public perception will improve.
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    Is it "highly doubful?" Whatever the case, you're operating under the assumption that however people will feel about Obamacare translates into a zero sum gain/loss by any particular party in an election, as if that's the only thing people will consider in every single race. I mean, historically speaking, the incumbent party of the President tends to lose seats no matter what. So, its not improbable that the ACA could be fine and the Dems could still lose the Senate, just because that is typically what happens.
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    It's certainly going to be a big factor, especially in red states. It's legislation that has become increasingly unpopular since it's roll-out. It would be a miracle if their wasn't a net gain of senate seats for the pubs. The real question is how many.
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    The odds for a net gain for the GOP were already pretty good long before Obamacare was rolled out, simply because the 2014 map is bad for the Democrats. So, not much of a bold statement there. In fact as soon as Schweitzer said he wouldnt run in Montana, the Senate was in flux:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/brian-schweitzer-not-running-montana-senate-control-democrats-2013-7


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    It will be a huge factor in the mid term elections regardless of what kind of kool aid fredsanford is drinking.
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    I hope it is a huge factor. If the GOP wants to do health reform, I encourage them to submit their alternative to the public. If you want to ride the "anger" into power, eventually you gotta do something.
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    The new strategy => see it doesn't suck as much as everybody thought.
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    That's silly. Right now, the vast majority of people who use private insurance are largely unaffected. Next year by election time, all the issues created by the employer mandate will start to kick in. Then suddenly, 53% of American who are covered by employer-sponsored policies are suddenly going to be very affected -- especially because most open enrollment periods start in October (before the November election).

    It's going to get WAY more ugly.
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    The old farce that the pubs have nothing. See Reid's trash basket which is filled with pub alternatives.
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    So you're basically saying that the American public will be even MORE stupid than they were when they voted the Great Jackass into office.

    If public perception improves on this debacle, then the public is beyond any help or hope whatsoever. Of course, they elected this turd twice so that already proves just how dumb the country was. Doubtful they will forget this massive screw-up, nor will the perception improve.

    You are still the leader in Too Hot Comedy Acts fred. Thanks for yet another laugh in the long and distinguished list you have provided over the years. :D
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    I guess the 108 cosponsors of American Health Care Reform Act mean nothing:

    http://freebeacon.com/gop-alternative-to-obamacare-gaining-support-in-house/
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    Yet all the while, this buffoon Hussein is STILL as defiant as ever. Just today he is playing his arrogance to full hilt, stating "we're not repealing this as long as I am president".

    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21741041-obama-on-affordable-care-act-were-not-repealing-it-as-long-as-im-president?lite

    This walking-talking turd is so arrogant, that even with the epic failures thus far--and likely much, much more ahead--what could be best for the country simply doesn't matter in his holier-than-thou eyes. He is more concerned with HIS legacy to make sure HIS idea for health reform stays put---he doesn't even consider that if the country were to be screaming to repeal it....he will basically fight to the death.

    This fool is delusional and completely irrational at this point. You have Dims turning on him--lib media making turns against him--the public is pissed off at him and the Dims....yet he plants his feet and vows to fight for three years if that's what it takes. This dumbass would cut his nose off to spite his big eared face....simply to feed his ego.
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    Rep only have to just sit and watch obama care implode
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