Police shoot unarmed black man in own driveway

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    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...t-valencia-unarmed-man-shot-driveway.cnn.html

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...way-article-1.1412206?localLinksEnabled=false

    Yikes!!!! Another shoot first and ask questions second incident. The man is lucky to be alive. Can the police not handle these incidents without shooting first? I mean like ask him to show ID first? Their life is not always in danger and they need to be able to discern that and not have hair triggers.

    On the other hand 17 casings. Terrible shooting, or he would have been dead!
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    This should help race relations.
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    I hate to see these things. It certainly doesn't speak very highly of the particular police officers in this situation at all. Bad enough to mistake someone for a criminal--though it sometimes happens *honestly*--but to actually shoot the guy takes it to another level.

    Glad the guy (and that six year old boy!!) is still alive with non-life threatening injuries. Pensacola faces a big lawsuit, rightfully.
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    P'cola in da house!

    God our officers are terrible shots. 1 for 17 is probably standard for their hit to miss ratio.
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    It's not always that Willie Gary's firm is interested in a case.
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    Cowboys in the police department, shoot first and ask questions later. Hope the guy gets a big payday.
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    Yeah, apparently that guy just crushes it in court. These folks are definitely moving on up to the east side.
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    but did he have a hoodie?
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    At 60 yo something tells me no :).

    I do have a question, though. What the heck were this guy, the one that called the police on him and a couple of witnesses doing up so late at night or more precisely so early in the morning?
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    Well, they've improved then, since the mid '90's debacle out on 9 Mile Road, where they emptied over 100 rounds at a guy in a pickup truck, who had a gun and was stopped on the side of the road. It was Fife v. Fife v. innocent bystanders, onlookers, and passerby. Everything was hit . . . except the intended target. Some of them reloaded their service Glocks three times.

    He died from a single, self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    So the official story goes, anyway.
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    The good news is that the neighbor called 911 instead of checking it out himself. Otherwise, it could have ended badly.
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    Were I a lawyer, I'd jump on it too if only because innocent people should not be getting shot by police. Even with honest mistakes, the state should be held financially liable for the harm one/some of its agents inflict.

    Not familiar with Willie Gary's firm and didn't realize you were speaking specifically to it rather than more generally to *any* firm jumping on it.
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    They certainly could not have mistaken him for the other Roy Middleton, Jr., from Pensacola, i.e., his son.

    He's doing life in prison for murder.
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    High profile civil litigation firm in Stuart. Know them well from the other side.
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    So... any naysayers from the waistband thread care to comment?

    This one is a double whammy in my book: neighbor doesn't recognize a man so they call the cops. Cops can't bother to run the plates so they open fire when the man stands up, which they mistake for "lunging" for "something."

    Yeah... speaking as a black male I'm sorry, the world is just different for me. Period. It views me differently, it reacts to me differently. If it doesn't know me, it assumes the worse, calls the cops, shoots first and asks questions later. In just the last two weeks, at least a dozen threads that prove it.

    Now how do we get past that?
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    Maybe I don't remember that well but it seems cops were not so quick to shoot people not that many years ago. Or perhaps it's just the Internet and being able to access more stories.
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    And mind you, this has less to do with the shooter than the person being shot: definitely waiting to see the identity of the caller (the cops don't matter, the badge overrules all).

    But that's beside the point
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    Hall I think this stuff has been going on for a long, long time. This being a sports message board, I imagine Riley would never have been in the situation he's in we're he on the '98 team instead if the '08 squad.

    If only the mass media played it fair instead of abusing the new reach they had, was a good sub-thread going on that topic somewhere else in here by other posters.

    This got me upset though, may need to edit my previous post

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