Pissed me off!

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  1. G8trGr8t
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    who would you propose pay for this being alive benefit and where in the constitution does it say that I should have to pay for you to exist?
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    Giving the homeless guy a good meal or $20 one time has no bearing on him boozing himself to death. If he's going to put drink over food, then one meal won't change that. It has the same effect as $20 long term: next to none. The *best* answer would to provide treatment for alcoholism at little or no cost to him, and job skills training, and temporary housing. But even then, the man has to make the choice to help himself. We can only supply the opportunity.
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    Why does the Constitution need to say this? Its the same as any entitlement (or a hypothetical single payer healthcare system), constitutional under the governments explicit power to tax & spend.
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    Another interesting one:

    1 snickers bar:
    296 cals
    35g carb
    2g fiber
    4g protein
    2% vitamin a
    5
    Calories are a terrible metric for "healthy," especially when the purpose is ostensibly to help keep people alive. "Nutrition" is not about calories, but about necessary macronutrients and vitamin/minerals.

    You could also use potatoes, which sans vitamin C are largely bereft of nutrients.
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    so do you think it is justifiable for the gubmnt to take my hard earned money and give it to somebody else so they can buy booze and cigs?
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    That's an interesting way to frame it. The government is perfectly justified in taxing people and providing cash benefits/subsidies/tax credits and also prosecuting fraudulent activity concerning those things when found.
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    not unexpected but all you did was dance around the question.

    yes or no. should the gubmnt be able to take money that I worked hard for and earned from me and my family and give it to others who have decided not to work for it so they can indulge themselves as they see fit. a simple y or n would be appreciated...


    and obob go ahead and rate this one dumb too, never had a personal stalker rating eveything I ever posted before so I have put your childish self put you on ignore and urge others to do the same. rating anything and everything I post as dumb is about as juvenile as it gets, it really shows your level of maturity. sorry i let myself sink to your level and engage in similar juvenile tactics
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    What in god's name are you talking about? You're the one who rated all of my posts as "dumb."

    I actually undid your dumb ratings. But let's talk "maturity" and "stalking," shall we?
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    there is something mentally missing from someone who thinks that it is fair to hand my hard earned money to bums who sit on their lazy asses all day. nothing anyone can say can make that sound logical
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    Why stop the loaded question there? Why not for subsidized satan worship? To buy child pornography maybe? Sex change surgery? Sorry, but any well-intended benefit is going to produce some fraud, it should be policed as best as possible. That doesnt mean fraud is justified, nor does it mean the program/benefit is not worthwhile.
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    why can't libs answer a yes or no question?

    should i have to work and have my earnings confiscated under threat of imprisonment so that others do not have to work?

    is that what this country was founded on or what made this country great?

    what happened to ask not what can my country can do for me? when did individual responsibility become a foreign concept?
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    then police it by limiting what any benefit can be spent on and by putting a lifetime cap on benefits. we need state stores that provide staples required to survive and nothing more.

    do you think a person should ever be responsible for themselves or do you think that every person is due a lifetime benefit simply because they are a US citizen?
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    Actually, I believe lack of calories will kill you quicker than lack of the other stuff, which actually kind of makes your point, in one sense.

    On the other hand, I would think that 231 grams of corn(two ears) would be more filling than 47.9 grams of M&Ms and thus would cost less money over time. So, corn is probably still the better purchase.
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    prefer skittles personally
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    Whoo Hoo! I hope they can use it to pay for hookers (working girl gotta eat), illegal drugs (pusher gotta pay the rent) and lottery tickets (states gotta pay retirement)
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    I hope it can be direct deposited into my account so I don't have to fool with paper checks.
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    isn't the goal of government to protect people from making bad decisions?

    or at least the consequences of?
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    Agree. Sounded like Pelosi.
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    That's the point though wgb. Have kids and we do it for a lifetime.
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    I must of missed that Article in the Constitution.

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