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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatormb, Dec 30, 2013.
gee what a surprise
The story is based on statements by Jerry Zeifman, a Democrat, who was a counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee. He said that he supervised then Hillary Rodham who got a job working on the investigation of the Watergate scandal, which eventually brought Richard Nixon's presidency to an end through resignation.
Zeifman published a book in 2006 titled Hillary's Pursuit of Power. On his website (www.jzeifman.com) he said "Hillary Clinton is ethically unfit to be either a Senator or President--and if she were to become President, the last vestiges of the traditional moral authority of the party of Roosevelt, Truman and Johnson will be destroyed."
Zeifman said that during her work on the investigation of the Watergate scandal, Hillary Rodham "...engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules."
In 1998 Zeifman was a consultant to a member of the Judiciary Committee that impeached President Bill Clinton and said he "gained extensive personal insights into the unethical practices of Hillary Clinton in her White House 'West Wing' office."
Specifically, Zeifman believes that Hillary Rodham Clinton and others wanted Richard Nixon to remain in office to enhance the chances of Senator Ted Kennedy or another Democrat being elected president. Zeifman contends that in 1974 a young lawyer who shared an office with Clinton came to him to apologize that he and Clinton had lied to him. The lawyer, John Labovitz, is quoted as saying that he was dismayed with "...her erroneous legal opinions and efforts to deny Nixon representation by counsel -- as well as an unwillingness to investigate Nixon."
Zeifman charges that Clinton regularly consulted with Ted Kennedy's chief political strategist, which was a violation of House rules.
Another reason for Clinton's conduct, according to Zeifman, was that Democrats did not want Nixon to face an impeachment trial because they feared that as a part of his defense Nixon might want to bring up abuses of office by President John Kennedy.
Zeifman said he regrets that when he terminated Clinton from the Nixon impeachment staff he did not report her unethical practices to the appropriate bar association.
Clicked the Zeifman link, it's all Chinese characters.
As for claims that he fired Clinton, seems his story changed over time.
Informative, but probably too late to do much good. We just don't care.
"What difference does it make."
It doesn't, and as my link showed, Zeifman's own changing comments call into question his credibility.
This will explain what she did. Whether he fired her or not isn't the big picture.
The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970.
“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.
The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files.
So what did Hillary do?
“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,”Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding ... as if the Douglas case had never occurred.
The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.http://patdollard.com/2013/05/flash...avior-conspiracy-to-violate-the-constitution/
Bolded the highlights so you could spend more time studying (researching) biblical archaeology.
I have zero doubt you believe it
Hey, I can't get over those sexy glasses and that infectious smile.
So it claims. Who is to say Zeifman is telling the truth? I mean, if he can change his story by saying he fired her, I think there is reason to be suspect about his other claims as well. And I mean this not as a defense of HRC, but as a defense of skepticism. HRC is divisive--and has been since she was FLOTUS. To think that Zeifman might have tried to capitalize on her fame by overstating her role or changing his views to fit a narrative isn't beyond the pale. Fact is, I have little clue what really happened, but I won't accept his account simply because it seems juicy and scandalous.
shhhh, don't tell my wife
Why are people so obsessed with the idea that a politician has to have any sense of ethics to be a political leader? Isn't the most important things that they look reasonably good on camera and tell us what we want to hear? So Hillary is a liar and cheater. So she doesn't pay her taxes or automotive registration. So she loans money to her campaigns and expects other people to pay it back. So she steals silverware from the White House. Why can't she be president? She has big plans to spend our grandchildren's money, in some cases by literally handing our grandchildren's money to us. Isn't that what we expect from a president?
you missed the sarcasm jdr- these words are what the hildabeast said under oath when testifying about Benghazi
She can't be any worse of a liar than the jackass in there now.
Yeah, but, it makes me kind of nervous when people say, "Hell, it can't get any worse than it is now."
There is no rational guarantee that devious people like (the lovely) HC, cannot FthingsUBAR.
Obviously he didn't want to get "Fostered." How would he know in 1974 that she'd be so ruthless and be such a power because of her husband