It is a very tough discussion to have as I obviously view the situation from a different premise (Supremacy of God). It does not make me better but it does make for a difficult conversation because there really is no way to reach an agreement if one views it from a different premise (Supremacy of Man). I am deeply convicted by my views as I am sure many are aware but love the discussion because you never know how one may affect me or I may affect them. Off topic...I truly enjoy our discussions on this board jdr! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!