Pentagon weighs deploying troops to Poland

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  1. diehardgator1
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    This we dont need. Not another war. We all know how this crap with the UN works out. The US winds up footing the bill and losing the lives of our young men and women. Every one needs to write their Senators and Congressman ( or women) and tell them we need to stay the hell out of this one.

    "The Pentagon is exploring options for deploying U.S. troops to Poland to expand NATO’s presence in Eastern Europe because of the ongoing crisis in Ukraine, as pro-Russian militants defiantly refused Friday to leave government buildings in eastern Ukraine despite a diplomatic accord reached in Geneva.

    A senior U.S. official told Fox News on Friday the U.S. is considering sending relatively small units to the country of around 130 soldiers, and the units would be there on a rotational basis.

    Poland’s Defense Minister Tomasz Siemoniak told the Washington Post Friday the U.S. was planning on sending ground troops after speaking with Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel on Thursday.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nding-ground-troops-to-poland-ukraine-crisis/
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    I don't like it either -- George W Bush, Bill Clinton, and really HW as well, were all fans of starting things they weren't going to finish, and Obama is like all three cubed. What's worse, is while other actors weren't sure if the other three would finish, the world watches with more or less clear understanding and certainty that Obama won't -- that he'd put troops in Poland purely for optics and that he'd flinch away from whatever escalation resulted.
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    It's actually the smart thing to do...it sends the message to Russia that if they get ideas, they'll be some US troops in the way and they better proceed with caution, lest any of them get targeted.

    Small deployments happen all over the world every day, this is no different.

    Besides, the Poles themselves are crazy enough b****rds to largely defend themselves if it came to it. Lol, we used to get a kick out of them arriving to firefights in Afghanistan blasting techno/trance music from speakers they rigged up to their APCs. I even saw fistpumps in the middle of firing! Lol...there's a lot of NATO nations that would be powerless to defend themselves against an armed gang from Compton (let alone the Russians), but the Poles aren't one of them. They have a competent military, even if their style isn't considered "professional" by the Pentagon brass...and hey, it works!
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    People are often leery of crazy b****rds. The uncertainty as to how they will react and to what extent can be a deterrent in itself.
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    Poland? Is this where the line is now?
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    I beg to differ. NOBODY is frightened of Obama. He set the tone early on, and the other world leaders know that he hasn't the stomach to do what needs to be done.
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    Oh, I fully agree with you there. The fact that this is a small deployment means it was probably ordered by the Pentagon directly, not the White House (anything approaching a battalion-sized deployment or greater requires more executive approval due to political considerations associated with moving large numbers of troops into a foreign country). Small deployments of a company or two don't usually require getting executive approval.

    And, naturally, this was "routine training with an allied country that had been in the works for months" if anyone from the White House does ask! ;)
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    I thinks those among the right in this country are DEEPLY afraid of Obama.
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    I will admit that I am. I knew he would be bad for America, but not THIS bad. It scares the hell out of me to think how much more damage he could do if the democrats were to hold onto the Senate in November. Thankfully, it appears that we won't have a chance to have my fears come to fruition..

    His inability to protect America and Americans scares me to the core as well. He is totally and utterly worthless as a leader.
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    Apparently Obama does not use "permanent ink markers". Rather he uses red pencil for "his lines". Such a bad ass pres. He's sending 150 US troops to participate in a NATO excercise where Poland requested 5000. I'm sure Putin can't sleep.
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    "Needs to show more strength and force"

    When contemplates showing showing some force;

    "Whoa, this is the last thing we need"


    You guys will move the goal posts as it suites
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    They won't admit it, but Obama represents the conservative America that they identify with, losing power...some can handle it, they clearly can't...
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    No, I freely admit that Obama scares the living hell out of me. Just like boarding an airliner and finding a four year-old as the captain would.

    His inexperience should frighten every person who has even half a brain.
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    "You guys" Lol... too funny. It's Obama that makes the red lines in the sand and then erases it. He's the one moving the goal posts.
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    Putin is pissing himself silly. 130 troops? Now that's a statement!

    Go Putin!
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    It has usually worked for me. As a guy not as big as some it was usually my best defense growing up in some tough neighborhoods but unwilling to keep my mouth shut when something wasn't right.
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    All will be armed solely with red Dry-Erase markers...
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    Yep, just ask Qaddafi and Bin Laden. No stomach at all. That is why both of them are still alive.
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    You left Reagan off your list. Could you imagine the apocalyptic fits you would be having if Obama let almost 300 soldiers deaths go completely unpunished? They would be utterly and incomprehensibly epic.
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    Why stop at the already dead ones? Why not Putin or Bashar Al-Assad?

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