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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by g8rmann, Jul 11, 2014.
7 rebounds (and 2 points). Rebound and defend and he'll have an NBA career.
Already has a double double.
He's a pro.
Final stats: 11 points 13 rebounds 19.5 minutes. Excellent first step towards finding an NBA home.
I don't think he ever had a 13-rebound day as a Gator.
The NBA is far more hospitable to rebounders. Far more space in the lane, defensive three second calls keep additional bodies out of the paint, the deeper arc means fewer wings crashing on the offensive glass, etc. Now, how well Young can do that in camp and the NBA preseason remains to be seen, but he has the size to defend two positions, the smarts to be an outstanding help defender, the strength to defend the post and get his boards, so he has a real shot if his knees stay healthy.
Any videos??! GO PAT
Not much to see in this video. Skip to the 56 second mark. Most rebounds don't make it to the highlights.
If Ben Wallace can make a career out of it, so can Pat
Billy has always told the guys, if you want to carve out a niche in the NBA, understand what you do best and make that your specialty.
I'm pulling very hard for Patric. His passion on the basketball court is fantastic to watch.
Ben Wallace averaged 10 rebounds per game over a 16 year career. He wasn't just some chump out there on the court that won NBA defensive player of the year four times.
I'm aware. Ben's one of my favorite players of all time. Only NBA jersey I own.
That is true but I'm not sure how that is responsive to cc's post. He didn't say Wallace was a chump, and when you put it that way, it makes it look like you're suggesting Pat is "some chump." I think the point of the post was pretty clearly that a player can have an NBA carreer by doing one important thing very well, not projecting that Pat will be a multiple time All-Star based on one summer league game.
You're assuming too much about what I think of Patric. The chump comment had nothing to do with Patric and everything to do with Ben and what seemed to be the insinuation that he wasn't that great of a player.
And I generally disagree with the premise that you can do one thing well and survive in the NBA. I'm sure you can list exceptions but in the example given, Ben Wallace, he was cited as sticking around due to his rebounding. I was pointing out that he was a four-time defensive player of the year so he most certainly was not a one trick pony. I'd say he was dominant at two facets of the game.
How about Ray Allen. Career 40% 3 point shooter. Not great stats otherwise. Didn't average a lot of steals, rebounds or assists (career assist to TO ratio wasn't even 2-1), and his overall FG% wasn't much higher than his 3 point %. But damn can he shoot the trey. One of the best 3 point shooters of this era, he's still good for a couple daggers a night, and that's why he's still playing. If he wasn't consistently a 40% shooter from the arc, he'd have been gone a long time ago.
As I said, I'm sure you could list some exceptions. However, I'd argue that for much of Ray Allen's career he was much more than just a three point specialist, though that was definitely his forte. He had a great two point game and carried his Milwaukee and Seattle teams while being a perennial All-Star. Now he is definitely only a three point specialist.
If you do one thing well, that doesn't mean the rest of your game can be abysmal. It just means that maybe you can make it if the rest of your game is passable.
Pat might make it if his defense and rebounding are good. He'll never be a prolific scorer, but a solid rebounder will contribute points.
I think you are forgetting the biggest factor, which is that the NBA game is 8 minutes longer and the shot clock is only 24 seconds, which means there are many more possessions in a game. Any stat which isn't adjusted for number of possessions (rebounds, points, steals, blocks) will be higher, on average, in the NBA due to the disparity in possessions between NCAA and NBA (how many college players average as many points as top NBA players? Most of the gators who start in the NBA average more points and rebounds than they did at UF). This is why offensive and defensive rebounding percentage is a better stat to evaluate players.
I am really pulling for Patric to do well and make an NBA team, but becoming a good NBA rebounder is not expected based on his college production.
Pat has also put a lot of work into his midrange jumper over the past year, working with Dupay quite a bit (including several times per week before the draft). He's hitting it at a pretty good clip, which we saw glimpses of last season, and which was noted during his pre-draft team workouts. That just wasn't his role here last season so it wasn't displayed much but I think people will start to see he is quite capable of doing that and is a better scorer than he's given credit for.