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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by DarthG8RV3, Oct 5, 2013.
The White House picks and chooses what gets shutdown and you libs know it.
I'm sure that there are, but I wouldn't let them talk about you like that.
If you have to choose, any choice sucks
Making someone choose is why choices are made.
Congress is why choices are being made and where all the fault is.
As I pointed out on one of the other threads about this same subject, monuments and memorials have been closed in previous shutdowns. The conservative National Review wrote, before the shutdown, that those things would be closed because that's what happens in a shutdown.
Now you guys are acting all surprised that monuments and memorials have closed and claiming it's all Obama's doing.
And you guys are acting like Obama isn't trying to pump up the pain to make political hay.
It's called political leverage. This is not Aristotelian politics. This is real politics, with patronage, highway funds, NASA facilities, small cities that should have never had an airport, Alaska roads to nowhere. This president has been utterly incompetent in using political leverage and the politics of the budget to get things done.
he might be. how specifically is he doing this, given that some many of the claims from the right here have been false.
The parks weren't closed during the previous shutdowns!!! The monuments weren't closed during the previous shutdowns!!!
let's talk about reality. what has he done?
This pain is small compared with default which could cause
a world wide depression.
Time to wise up which isnt the strong point of the Tea Party.
Meanwhile Boehner says that House will not pass a clean debt bill. Now who's playin politics. He says that Obama needs to come to the table and discuss SS, Medicare and social programs. Now Boehner? Is now the best time? Meanwhile the budget deficit is now at 4.3% of GPD, basically at the same level as when Obama inherited it. How about we rescind the Bush gift to Big Pharma, the ill advised supplemetal drug benefit? How about we rightsize the military? Have Germany, Japan and Korea assume a bigger role in the world and budgets that go along with it?
How about we get your Boy-Child President to actually propose any of that, much less, follow-through.
Not a chance in hell.
Nah....you just see what you want to see.
This--from the article--is an excellent summary of what has actually happened:
Why not one more year, Row?!?!
I mean....Mickey D's and Walmart et. al, got one more year...why not the rest of America?!?!
What's the big rush? :dog:
...and for good measure, another gem from the article, speaking painful TRUTH:
....btw, this from one of the other articles linked from a different thread:
92gator - You are spot on! The MSM will continute to blame the Republicans.
Speaking of wgb, where is he anyway?
Previous negotiations led to democrats (incl the president) accepting the number Boehner told Reid he needed for a CR. That's the $980 billion+/- figure and less than what democrats wanted. He just admitted on Sunday that this is true and that TPer's (a distinct minority in the House but one that scares moderate republicans who don't want to get primaried) said afterward that now they want Obamacare repealed. These are indisputable facts. Along with them is the additional fact that a plan to shut down the government was launched right after Obama kicked Romney's ass last November, led by the Koch brothers and Ed Meese. The meaning of this is that this shutdown was happening no matter what budget items were "negotiated" and Boehner was too weak to stop it and now to end it, even though his request was met by democrats.
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It is perfectly clear to me that there are no statesmen [including the President] left in Washington. There is no one who can or will reach across the aisle to forge a consensus. The members of Congress are more concerned about their own party, attacking the other party and getting reelected than doing the best for America. The behavior is like that of 7th graders who cannot control their speech.
When I was a young lawyer, my mentor told me to fight for the rights of my client, but to maintain a professional working relationship with the lawyer or lawyers for the other side. That advice has served me well during the past 40 years.
The members of Congress apparently had no mentors. It's all about pointing fingers, calling names and an unwillingness to act like adults.
There'd be no shutdown at all, if Barry and the dummy-rats afforded the general public the same courtesy they extended Mickey-freak'n-D's, Walmart, et. al.
One. Stinkin'. Year.
Why not? Why the mid-terms (2014) of course.
Whose playing FU politics?
The dummy-rats. As usual.