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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jaxgator1991, Oct 1, 2013.
well it happened. what are yals thoughts?
Its past midnight and senate just recessed until 930a
Shutdown is here.
omg has the sky fallen yet?
It must have, Obamacare went live 17 minutes ago.
Judging by what I've read on this board presumably my insurance company must have sent me a $50,000 bill, I've been fired, my doctor moved to Bermuda, and 14 kittens have been beheaded, and I just don't realize any of it yet.
What a bunch of posturing. Everyone up there is pathetic.
I think their pay and all bennies should have stopped at midnight too.
just saw obama's latest tweet. im sorry this guy makes me sick. he is a stubborn fool, its his way or the way and NEVER his fault.
So obsama wants "my way or the highway", does he?
Fine pal, HIGHWAY. YOU hit the highway and don't look back.
Would you at least be honest and drop the charade?
Sorry, that's probably too much to ask...
Dude, he was just joking! :roll:
Like I said in another thread, went through this during the last one and we all made it fine. I think this would be an excellent opportunity to see what's excess and what's actually needed. If it's needed, it's getting done right now - air traffic control, military/defense, VA, Social Security is still going out, etc.
BTW they announced in the local news that 20 parks up here were closed to the shutdown. I'm sorry, 20??? So that's 20 on top of the myriad of local parks that they're constantly threatening to shut down when the county is having issues? How many freaking parks do we need? Especially in an area that really can only use them 7 months out of the year.
If people are smart, they'll take this as an opportunity to cut/slim down the government. Then again, it's Congress.
Business as usual, fed employees get a holiday. No one notices and the taxpayers save a few scheckles. Can we keep them closed through the new year? Perhaps we can cut into next years deficit.
During government shutdowns, the term "essential government employee" is now in the news. Lets come up with a list:
Air Traffic controllers
Yes, they should all be considered non-essential.
You know whats the most comical assumption coming from the Leftists about Obama-scam? That if a patient needs catastrophic care costing $250,000 that the patient won't have to pay out of pocket if they have $100,000 dollars in savings. And that said patient gets to keep his/her money. Lol....
That's just pure fantasy right there.
The '95-96 shutdown was 21 days. Do you want the over or under on 21 days?
I'm going to say it'll be 45 days or a few months. Here's why. At 45 days we're just before the Thanksgiving holiday and the start of the holiday season. They're not going to want to have this looming as people are going into the holiday spending season. If they can't come up with something, Congress will most certainly not work through any kind of holiday, so you're looking at January.
I think there's too much bad blood and too stupidity to get anything done within the next few weeks.
I'd say 45 days is unlikely, unless they somehow pass a debt ceiling hike while keeping the government shutdown. Oct 17th is when borrowing authority is apparently exhausted, a shutdown could extend that date by a day or two with the reduced expendatures. That would still fall under 21 days.
Way under. Just a matter of how long it takes Boehner to give up on his current "let the Tea Party touch the stove enough times and they'll realize they're getting burned" strategy and decide to set the Hastert Rule aside for this vote.
A clean CR could pass the House right this instant if they brought it to a vote, but because it isn't supported by a majority of the majority (i.e., the Hastert Rule, the majority of the Republican Conference doesn't support that bill so it never gets brought up even though enough Republicans support it to vote with Democrats and achieve passage) it isn't being brought to a vote right now. That will change at some point given that a Republican speaker isn't actually bound to follow the Hastert Rule and Boehner has demonstrated a willingness to set it aside on what he views as critical legislation in the past.
Oh, true - I'd forgotten about the ceiling issue. Stranger things have happened so I wouldn't doubt they'd try to pass a "temporary" ceiling increase while sorting out the budget thing just to buy more time.