Parents can't name baby 'Messiah'

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    Don't think it'd be particularly good for the child to have that name, but don't think a judge should decide that.

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    Parents are not too bright with that name selection, but it's none of the judge's business to force that change.
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    look for the ruling to be reversed by a higher court(perhaps the SCOTUS). Since precedent has already been set with many people named Jesus, Mohammed, etc.

    It also appears that the judge will be raked over the coals in regards to trying to impose his own religious taboo upon others..

    wonder if he will try to take away Reinhold's first name....
    ----Judge Reinhold---actor in Beverly Hills Cop.

    or try to take Field's name away
    ----Prince Fielder

    If anything can be determined from a person's name---that judge should be pretty easy to predict--- Lu Ann Ballew---not hard to tell what her biases may be.

    You'd think that a judge would want someone to have such a name as it would give the child something to live up to. Far better to name a child 'Jesus', 'Messiah', Prince', 'Judge'

    I'd be more supportive of the Judge decision if the parent tried to name the child---Adolph Hitler, A Rod, Pacman Jones, etc


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    of course there are times it would be good for a judge to force a different first name for children. Such as the mother of twins who decided to name the twin girls the first two fancy words the mother hears after giving birth to each.....She over heard the nurse say Gonorrhea and Syphilis..Imagine two girls having those as their first names.
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    Did you say Hitler?

    Folks have been there. Had their children taken away from them.

    Bad decision by the judge with the Messiah case, Hitler, tougher call.
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    I believe the Hitler case involved domestic violence. It wasn't because of the name. Or just because of it.
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    You are probably right. I just remember when it happened and all the hoopla around it back then. I posted a link to the case (though I didn't read the current link that I posted, lol).
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    Doubt it would take the Supreme Court. I'm going to assume that this kind of ruling is subject to abuse of discretion review at the appellate level, and the judge will get the taste judicially slapped out of his mouth. For the reasoning anyway; I do wonder if a court would ever accept a different argument that crackpot names for children are tantamount to some form of abuse.
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    Strange indeed that this would occur. I read recently that New Zealand actually has a banned baby name list, which includes Messiah. As well as princess and judge (luckily you were born in the US, Reinhold!). Some of the more common names on list (with number of instances to the right):

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/world/asia/new-zealand-stange-baby-names
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    Major Wright -- an outlaw from Kiwi Justice.
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    Queen Latifah would disagree, as would Duke Snider
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    Not that I think he'd be around these parts, but I had a classmate in high school who was named Courtney Marie . Yep. HE. Nicest guy, real fun, took it all in stride. Ended up becoming a really well-built FBI agent :grin:

    Some parents need the help. Reasoning is poor in this case but man, sometimes I don't know what parents are thinking when they name their kids.
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    I know a guy named Courtney too. Can't imagine what middle school was like for him.
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    The courtney part, not so bad, but Marie? Jeez. Some parents need a slap to the head even if their child can 'take it in stride.' That said...

    If someone wants to name their child messiah or courtney marie my inclination is err on the parents behalf even if they use poor reasoning or are just idiots. Parens Patriae is too easily abused in the US.

    On the other hand, w/ the Nazi parents, I am not so sure that it isn't abuse and tend to think it really is-so I don't have as much of a problem with the courts/state stepping in to protect the children.
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    By FAR the best name I've ever come across is Luscious Pusey.

    I was at a track meet in high school and they were announcing the runners when that one gets said aloud. I burst out laughing and it's the guy in the lane next to me. I felt a little bad and apologized, but he didn't care, said he's used to it by now and loves his parents had a sense of humor.
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    Hilarious, sad, just wow, all rolled into one. Sense of humor maybe, but still wrong, imo.
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    Coincidentally, I was just telling my wife and her friends about Luscious on Friday night. I looked him up, and it seems he had lost his sense of humor.
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    Well that's just a darn shame Rade. Completely understandable though.
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    Yeah it was the combination. That and the kid was rail thin and had long straight blond hair. He was just one of those boys who didn't grow until later, but man when he did....
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    Lucious' high school football team played a game at the school where I volunteer. Our PA announcer was nervous throughout the game, worried that he might "slip" on the last name. We'd been instructed that the pronunciation was PEW-see. LP was a good player so his name was called pretty often.

    Another area player from around that time period was Wonderful Terrific Monds II.

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