Panera CEO tries food-stamp challenge, lives on $4.50 a day

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    Don't confuse obesity with being properly nourished. In fact, malnourishment often leads to obesity, as people eat cheap, filling foods that are nutritionally lacking.
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    This is the biggest full-of-sheet publicity stunt ever!

    What's the name of the program again???

    Oh that's right it's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

    The program was never meant to be anyone's sole source of food. In most cases, SNAP is provided to the working poor where it was designed to supplement their low wages along with other cash programs like the EITC, welfare, SSI, etc.

    In addition to SNAP, there are other food program available for those who aren't working like WIC and TEFAP.

    Then, in each state, they have even more additional programs. For instance in Florida, we have CCFP, the Food Assistance Program, and SUNCAP. Oh, and if you kids are school-aged they'll get free lunch and breakfast both during the school year and during the summer.

    No one who is asking for help is going hungry in this country.
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    Al of those other programs would count SNAP benefits as income that would make the recipient LESS LIKELY to receive other food benefits.

    The idea that aren't people who are relying on SNAP solely for their food is the biggest full-of-sheet lie on this thread.

    If your jobless and homeless....SNAP might likely be your #1 food source.




    And if you really believe your last statement...

    Is no one in this country going hungry?
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    Do you have a link that shows that millions of American only live off of 4.80 a day? It's quite irrelevant? Are you joking? If no one in our country is even living off that small of an amount, then what's the point in doing this? What would it prove?

    Another question is - what percentage of SNAP receivers use it in conjunction with other government assistance programs?
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    Again, SNAP is supposed to be supplemental not the sole source of food. The program was set up like that from the beginning.

    And, I never said that no one in this country is going hungry. There are plenty of folks going hungry. People don't apply for the programs because they're too proud, too lazy, too addicted, too stupid, and/or mentally ill.

    What I said is that no one who is trying to help is going hungry. Between all the programs I mentioned above and all the charities out there (soup kitchens, food pantries, et al) no one who is trying is going hungry.
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    Odd i see SNAP people buying steaks and what not every time.... I call BS on this.
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    I have seen people buying solid gold Maseratis with SNAP.
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    I once saw a guy buy a yacht with SNAP.
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    GTGator

    Aside from the setup of the program....Are you claiming that it isn't the primary, if not, the sole source of food for some?

    If not, then that's what's being tested in this public challenge.

    If more people are on the program but we cut the $$$$ then the $4 per day is what were willing to take the budget axe to?

    To hurt the poorest the most?


    The people you left out of who does go hungry are children.
    Those born into poverty...

    Which do you consider them to be? Too stupid, lazy, or too addicted? :sick:
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    The Washington Post does a decent job of explaining it:

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    Next step: SNAP navigators. In home food experts to prepare, and actually spoon-feed people healthy foods. They're going to be damn healthy whether they like it or not.
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    The point in doing this is for the 20% who have no income per GTGator's numbers.

    Lets see, 23 million on SNAP...4.6 million with no income at all.

    So, the CEO took the challenge and now has a better idea of what life is like for almost 5 million everyday.


    What's the argument with a CEO doing this? :huh:
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    how many of those 4.6 million could have income if they went out and got a job-I see help wanted signs all over the place- it may not be the job they want but a job is a job right now
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    Maybe he actually wants to learn so he can be additive to policy making.

    Not everything is publicity based.
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    313.9 million in our country. According to SNAP's website, as of August, 2011, 45.8 million people were using it. So that's roughly like, 14% right?

    According to WSJ's article, 70-75% had additional income I believe. So we're at what, like 11.3 million people? So about 3% of the population? Listen, I truly believe everyone is important, and 3% of the population is still something, but I think he could've chosen a bit better of ae 'experiment' to prove some kind of point. Of that 3% a good amount of them are probably using some other kind of government assistance as well.

    If anything, his point just proves to me that even living off of 4.80 a day with the ability to catch a bus, or have access to some kind of store within a few miles(which most people are), things are just really not too bad in this country, even for the misfortunate.

    Side note: I'm terrible at math, those numbers could be really far off.
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    I have been searching for where someone actually said people WANT to live off food stamps as the OP stated. Or is that just being overly dramatic?

    As for the CEO, good for him, although he could have done it privately if it was for his own edification. Since this is out for all to see, seems like a publicity stunt of some kind, or perhaps he thinks CEOs like himself should be taxed at a higher rate so that the government can give those hungry people more tax dollars so that maybe they too can afford to eat at Panera.
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    GT Gator still has yet to tell us if those 16 million kids are too lazy, addicted, or stupid?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2423275/Millionaire-Panera-Bread-CEO-attempts-survive-just-4-50-day-challenge-live-like-48-million-Americans-food-stamps-hes-spent-pasta-lentils.html?amp;ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    Life on the breadline: Millionaire CEO of Panera Bread tries to get by on just $4.50 a day (which is less than just ONE of their loaves!)

    The millionaire founder and CEO of the Panera Bread chain is currently attempting to live on just $4.50 a day as part of a campaign to show what it’s like for the millions of Americans who depend on food stamps.


    Ron Shaich, a keen advocate of large corporates giving back, started his low budget food shopping challenge on Saturday and has committed to doing to for an entire week.


    Shaich’s effort is part of the SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) Challenge, designed to raise awareness that ‘nearly 48 million people receive food stamps and 16 million children go to bed hungry.’

    In total, Shaich spent $25.95 - mainly on pasta, lentils and chickpeas - leaving him with just $6 for the rest of the week. He admitted there’s a good chance he’ll use his remaining amount on a sugar fix at some point during the week.


    ‘This isn't going to be easy. In fact, it’s going to be incredibly hard,’ he wrote last Friday.


    ‘I haven’t even felt the first pangs of hunger, and I’m already gaining a whole new perspective into challenges that so many people in this country face in dealing with food insecurity - from the embarrassment of having to leave items at the register to the diligence and ongoing calculation required to constantly prioritize and rank every purchase and potential purchase, big and small.’


    The House of Representatives could vote this week to cut the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as food stamps, by 5.2 percent. That would mean up to six million Americans would be forced off of food assistance, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

    Shaich says his intention is not to ‘trivialize anyone else’s experience’ but merely to help spread a deeper awareness of America's growing food instability problem.
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    Thanks GT, for your earlier post and this one, explaining the SUPPLEMENTAL program.

    Most of us get the idea.

    Supplemental.
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    Kids? WTF are you talking about?

    Sorry, but there are zero kids in the United States living on nothing but SNAP if their parents tried to get additional assistance.

    Right now, if a single mother tried was unemployed and applied for programs, she would be immediately eligible for:

    SNAP
    Section 8
    Welfare (for at least 2 years but maybe much more depending on the state)
    WIC (assuming the either the kids were toddlers or the mother was pregnant)
    Medicaid
    An ObamaPhone
    Free school and summer breakfast and lunch (assuming the kids are school age)
    Plus a plethora of other governmental and charitable programs

    Kids are not going hungry in this country if their parents actively seek help.

    There are certainly some able-bodied, childless adults who get nothing more than SNAP assuming they've been unemployed for a long time. However, even for those able-bodies, childless adults, there are loads of governmental and charitable programs that assist them.

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