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    What are your thoughts on the numbers this year?

    Based off of the 12 game regular season:

    1) Driskel passes for: 3000 yards

    2) Leading rusher: 900 yards

    3) VHII: 4.5 INTs

    4) Fowler: 9 sacks

    5) Gators making 1st Team All-SEC: 3

    6) Leading WR will have 50 receptions

    7) 8.5 wins

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    1. Lol

    2. Over

    3. Sounds reasonable

    4. Might be a bit high but I expect good things from him.

    5. Also reasonable.

    6. Eh. We'll see.

    7. See above.
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    1) Push

    2) Over

    3) Over

    4) Under

    5) Push

    6) Over

    7) Over

    I don't think Fowler will have 9 sacks or more, but I think he knocks the QB's around and puts a lot of pressure on them, which is really good too.
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    1. Under
    2. Over
    3. Under (Thinking 4)
    4. Under (6.5)
    5. Push
    6. Under
    7. Over (10)
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    1. Over
    2. Under
    3. Over
    4. Under
    5. Push
    6. Over
    7. Over
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    Push, but the opportunity will be there.

    Under only because the ball will be spread to all of the backs to share..plus opportunities for all backs to catch passes out on the flat.

    Over.

    Over.

    Push only because the ball will be distributed to all the receivers...not just a main receiver...lots of options is what makes the wide receiver game go in this system.

    Push.

    Over.
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    1) Driskel passes for: 3000 yards
    under

    2) Leading rusher: 900 yards
    over

    3) VHII: 4.5 INTs
    over

    4) Fowler: 9 sacks
    Push

    5) Gators making 1st Team All-SEC: 3
    Over

    6) Leading WR will have 50 receptions
    Under

    7) 8.5 wins
    over
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    1) Driskel passes for: 3000 yards
    Under
    2) Leading rusher: 900 yards
    Under although something tells me we'll have 3 rushers at +500
    3) VHII: 4.5 INTs
    Under - Although this could easily be over, depends on how much they throw to his side...
    4) Fowler: 9 sacks
    Way Under
    5) Gators making 1st Team All-SEC: 3
    Under - I would guess two, both on defense.
    6) Leading WR will have 50 receptions
    Barely Under
    7) 8.5 wins
    Under
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    Oooooof!
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    1) Driskel passes for: 3000 yards
    Over- Driskel will impress a lot of people this year.

    2) Leading rusher: 900 yards
    Under - with somewhere near 7 ball carriers this year it would be hard(7 including: Taylor, Lane, Jones, Brown, Showers, Joyer, Driskel)

    3) VHII: 4.5 INTs
    Under - CBs like VH do not get thrown at very often.

    4) Fowler: 9 sacks
    Push- gonna get close.

    5) Gators making 1st Team All-SEC: 3
    Over - at least two on D right now and I think that by the end of the year one more on D and at least one from O.

    6) Leading WR will have 50 receptions
    Over- the ball will be spread around but Kurt Roper has shown that he will most likely have a go to guy.

    7) 8.5 wins
    Over- This is dependent on team health.
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    Some of you guys are crazy. 9+ sacks for Fowler? 5+ INTs for VH3? 3000+ yards for Driskel? I like the optimism but these numbers are better than Kearse, Haden, and Tebow. (Tebow only broke the 3000 yard barrier once). I am optimistic, but also realistic.
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    Agree.

    Driskel will likely share snaps to some degree as it is, if Roper holds to form. I certainly hope he does, so we have someone else ready to go, and we can provide some different looks.

    So to think he'd more than double his previous output seems unlikely. If he gets 2400 in the regular season, we're likely happy with the offense.

    VHIII is plenty capable of those pick numbers except he'll be the only proven CB, so it is likely most teams will avoid him and attack our other corner/nickel.

    Fowler might get there. Kid has a ton of talent. But if he gets constantly doubled, does he pull big numbers like that?

    Definitely some optimistic picks.
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    If Roper holds to form then there is a definite chance for Driskel to reach 3000. Roper runs a balanced offense that gets over 80 plays per game on average. With that balance it is safe to assume about 40 passing attempts per game. At a 60% that is 24 completions per game. Which is likely to get around 250ypg which is 3000 yards. Plus Tebow only threw for 3000 one year because he only averaged 30+ attempts in 07. Also the only year that Roper used multiple QBs was last year.

    Roper got Renfree and Lewis to 3000 yards. Driskel is far superior talent, there is no reason why he cannot get there.
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    Exactly, this isn't a 16 game NFL schedule. 9 sacks is a ton in college, so is 4.5 interceptions. The most likely is a rusher over 900 and a WR with 50+ catches, IMO.
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    I sincerely hope he runs two QBs this year and that is a good part of the reason we don't see JD get to 3000 (and not because he gets injured for the fourth year in a row, or because our offense is ineffective).

    We have lost our starting QB every single year since 2010. JD has been injured every single year he's been here. We need guys ready to play.

    I also don't see 40 passes per game, even if we get to 80 plays per game. Maybe 36 passes per game (55/45 run pass mix). Which would be more passes on average than Driskel's career high.
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    Why would you want two QBs? The only time that would be necessary is if one they didn't have a dual threat. IMHO if we see a two QB system this year then we will see the end of the Muschamp era, because Driskel would be under performing and that would mean disaster for UF.
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    Based off of the 12 game regular season:

    1) Driskel passes for: 3000 yards Under
    That would be 250 yards + per game. No fricken way. Hopefully over 2000 though, although that is probably optimistic as well.

    2) Leading rusher: 900 yards Over
    If one RB is having a good year he will get the bulk of the carries.

    3) VHII: 4.5 INTs Over
    Kid is a play-maker. He is going to make some plays and create some turnovers this year, no question.

    4) Fowler: 9 sacks Under
    He just hasn't proven he can be a dominant pass rusher yet. Until I see it I won't believe he can get that many.

    5) Gators making 1st Team All-SEC: 3 Under
    I doubt Fowler ends first team. I think UF only ends up with 1.

    6) Leading WR will have 50 receptions Over
    Way over. Wouldn't be surprised if Dunbar has close to 70 or 80 in this offense.

    7) 8.5 wins Over
    I say 9 wins
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    You are under estimating two things:
    - the potential of the frosh QBs we just brought in... Harris will be our best option run threat from day one (by a large margin), and until/unless JD learns to throw down field with accuracy and touch, Grier will be our best down field pass threat.
    - the potential for a QB who has been injured every year, to get injured again

    In a perfect world, this offense is perfect for Driskel, and Roper has him coached up in the areas he needs to improve. But to date he has not been a player that you want to have throwing the ball 30 times a game, and he has not been good in the red zone.

    Having options when JD either isn't performing well or just to have better red zone packages (especially against some teams / match ups) is a good thing.
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    We just have different opinions of Driskel, I still see him as the #1QB from his high school class and you do not. Also you are giving a lot of credit to two true freshman QBs one of which wasn't even there for spring. I just feel Driskel was hampered by poor play calling and bad play design.

    IMO Driskel will be the best run and pass threat. Harris will probably redshirt and Grier will get mop up duty time. Either way I do not believe that both frosh QBs will play this year and Grier is the better bet to be the Backup, he can run pretty well too.
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    Winning an award in a QB camp five years ago doesn't demonstrate anything relevant to playing SEC football.

    This offense should fit him better. Good.

    Roper seems to have a handle on areas JD needs to improve to be successful. Also good.

    The rest is on JD. He does have the experience and without question should be our most effective QB (even if not the best runner or best thrower).

    As far as JD being the best run threat and pass threat, you haven't watched the film on our frosh. Harris can throw and is easily the most elusive QB we have on our roster. Perhaps the most elusive runner on the team in any position.

    Grier has the down field accuracy, I am praying JD will find. We'll see how they look against SEC competition, but they both have poise and awareness.

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