Oops: The IRS "Obama" scandal that wasn't

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    Seems like another "scandal" that wasn't...

    Now, don't get me wrong, I think there are criticisms to be had of the IRS, but of course half-truths and distortion always obscure the more complicated facts.


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    Blunt may believe that but until we have an investigation I am going to say he is wrong-way too many fires here
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    So, these groups got the same scrutiny that some conservative groups did, but :

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    The information that the IRS is another dense bureaucracy that has more rules than sense, should surprise no one. The facts as presented here ARE the result of Congressional inquiry.

    No one here should believe that those who are happy to see scandal will see the facts anyway.
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    We will never know because everyone of them is taking the 5th.
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    Well, today is the 5th.
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    Nothing to see here, well, except an irs scandal.
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    Hasn't it already been clearly established that there were a few liberal orgs that got extra scrutiny? Wasn't it a gross difference though in the amount?

    This thread is typical of the one sided politics. Many elements contribute to make this a scandal, not just whether President Obama "orchestrated" it.

    One thing is known, the WH was aware of the situation months ago.
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    LOL he said she said politics at its best.

    If you don't think Obama has SOME involvement in this, you are just too into your parties ass to see whats going on in the real world.

    Maybe Obama didn't directly tell the IRS to do this, but you can bet he knew about it and probably encouraged it in some way.
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    not sure that's true.
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    You missed the IG report from 2 weeks ago? The numbers were as clear as day. We had a thread...
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    Whether or not anything was orchestrated by the White House, this scandal certainly casts doubt on the idea that the government is fundamentally trustworthy when it comes to intervening in private lives.
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    Was the post a few days ago wrong that showed a HUGE difference between Dem/Rep probing by the IRS? I think it was something like Reps +100 Dems -20 (or something like that).
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    The OP obviously didn't read the 10 other threads on this subject. Investigation is just starting and it is likely to look worse according to people on both sides of the aisle.

    This is a dupe thread times ten. Ain't media brainwashing great!
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    I would guess if you were a Romney supporter who gave big bucks only to find the IRS on your doorstep within a month with a desire to audit your personal and business tax returns and you hear other donors got the same treatment and then you read about the scrutiny and bogus delay tactics for Patriot and Tea Party groups....you would say yes, there is a scandal.

    If you are a lefty libbie who does your taxes on a form EZ...no scandal.
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    You hit the nail on the head Rick!!
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    If there is nothing to the scandal, and everything is normal at the IRS, then why would anyone take the 5th to avoid testifying?

    If there was no White House involvement, then why did the head of the IRS visit the White House 157 times? And why did the previous president only visit with the head of the IRS once in 8 years? Was George W. Bush just a hundred times better president than Obama? Or is it more likely that something fishy was going on?

    The issue is not whether nursing organizations were delayed receiving tax-exempt status or not--they are ostensibly apolitical. The question is whether or not liberal groups were targeted at the same rate that conservative groups were. I think the fact that 50 times as many conservative groups were targeted indicates that there was some bias. Liberals are supposed to have some respect for science and mathematics. What are the odds that random targeting would result in 50x as many chosen from one group as the other?
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    The fictional story appears to be that the IRS targeting of the conservative groups originated in the White House and that story was not a product of the Left. For decades conservatives have been preaching the gospel of bureaucratic incompetence. Now that there is an actual example of such incompetence (misjudgment by mid-level IRS management) they refuse to accept that reasonable explanation since it is inconsistent with their scenario.
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    Is that so?
    The Atlantic
    Appears to be another example of fiction from the conservative media complex.

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