Ok guys..need some advice

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    Don't know where the 5'8" came from. 6'2" and big boned. According to the "gizmo" hand held thing adding 10 lbs of muscle a and 20% body fat puts me at 250.

    Still technically obese though. My body far was 36%.
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    Yeah your main goal should be fat loss. That is no reason to not try putting on some muscle and getting stronger. In fact its probably a great reason to do just that.

    Good luck.
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    I think leaf and I are basically on the same wavelength. Focus on quality strength workouts above all else.
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    I agree w/ gaining strength/mass through SS. Sounds like you have SS3. Practical programming for starting strength is another great book. The two together give you all you need to know about the lifts and programming.

    Pick one thing and stick with it for a while. If no results then alter. Don't be ADD about your programming.

    DON'T listen to Rip about diet however. You may want to look into leangains or carb night or other.
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    What's wrong with a gallon of a milk a day and blowing your knees out ?
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    Yeah, GOMAD is pretty silly unless you're a 160# 6'3" 18 year old.

    There's no knee blowing out, however. Unless you do it wrong. My advice: don't do it wrong.
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    Well damn, that was pretty much me @ 18. I should have done that lol

    Now I'm 6'4" and up to about 195-200.
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    One trainer (age 44 & a stud who's won tons of competitions) advised me not to do squats with bar on the back. Said he doesn't even do them any more as you get older the disks in your lower back start to "deteriorate" and heavy squats may aggravate.
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    Evidently, Rippetoe himself did it wrong. He says he basically has no ACL.
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    Be wary of trainers who only have individual accomplishments to show you. Yes its impressive to win competitions (not sure what type of competitions) but its much more impressive to get results for others. Most pro bodybuilders are terrible people to get advice from. They are often gifted genetically, using a plethora of super supplements and doing things that you yourself will not be doing.

    As to whether or not it is safe and healthy for you to put a bar on your back at your age and fitness level that is impossible to tell based on someone elses experience or habits. Some other guys experiences matter very little in that decisions when it comes to you. And there are certainly other guys your age who are doing squats and even deadlifts. Not that it means anything in your situation.
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    If truly starting out.. no reason you can't get stronger and drop weight at the same time.
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    The hard part for a lot of folks seems to be not knowing how to move safely, not warming up or mobilizing enough. If a trainer gives you pointed advice on why you shouldn't squat, based on mobility issues or injuries, it might make sense. But otherwise, there are lots of ways to scale and squat very safely - like box squats.
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    I think box squats are great myself, whether to develop starting strength (in which case you can get by using less weight), or just for safety. Currently, my go-to leg movement is a chair goblet squat. Deceptively difficult.
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    Nutritional changes should be your primary concern, much more than what you are doing in the gym. This coming from a clinician who specializes in movement with a strength and conditioning background. Focus on getting a few basic movements as quality as possible (like squats, push ups, rows, pull ups, dead lifts, etc) and add some strength to them (starting strength would not be a bad starting point) when it comes to the gym, but the nutritional and lifestyle choices you make during the other 23 hours of the day will be much more important for you.
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    Literally this. Health is easy. In theory.

    You can eat 1000 calories in a sitting or squat it out in 3 hrs at the gym
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    Find a sidewalk and walk until you lose about twenty pounds, and then start weight training. Much cheaper and men can lose weight pretty fast with walking and cutting out junk food.

    The subway diet worked because Jarrod walked a couple miles to get his sandwich, something they rarely mention now.

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