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    Just joined LA Fitness. Only two miles from home. Next closest is ten. $34 month to month.

    I'm 58 and weigh 305. Down 35 the last three months with no exercise. Big and strong naturally and would "be the man" @245. Time to do it.

    Had forgotten the free supervised workout is a sales pitch for a PT. $30-50 per half hour depending on whether you contract for 3-2-1 times a week. Just not gonna happen. Realizing the majority goes to LA, sorry $60-100/hour is too much for a supervised workout.

    Any recommendations on books or Android programs? Or the possibility of a non LA trainer?
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    Their "philosophy" is 5 minute warm up, 30 lifting followed by 30-60 cardio.

    I plan on five days a week M-W-F with that schedule with Tue/Thur cardio (heavy bag, swimming, b-ball) sauna & whirlpool.
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    Hey mb if you are relatively knowledgeable and comfortable working out on your own I can help you with a program. That is a lot to charge for hourly unless you are in a major city. I charge $55/hr for my clients here in Vegas. Some people here do charge more but not many. PM me if you want. Most gyms won't allow an outside trainer to be there with you so its them or online only really.
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    Starting Strength or Stronglifts 5x5.

    focuses on squats, linear progression until you stall. Stronglift's report is free.
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    Paying more than $40 per hour of training at a 24-hour Fitness, Bally's type of club is too much.

    They're not worth anything more.
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    Starting strength is a great suggestion. Really easy to program and adjust yourself.
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    Yes! Really great.

    Push pull legs is my favorite.

    Sprinkles with 2 days of cardio ( ultimate frisbee and football)
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    strong log on the android market seems to get good reviews.

    stronglifts (if you choose that route) added an android version of his app recently too.
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    Starting Strength (3rd edition) seems to be the "go to" book from my limited research. That with a Strong log is a good place to start.

    Agree?
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    Starting strength is a very good fitness book. Great info and very detailed. Well worth the cost. There are also a lot of good starting strength resources online with videos and different programming suggestions.
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    On the way to books a million. Don't want to wait for Amazon.

    Hadn't thought of videos. Thanks.
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    If you do Starting Strength don't forget to drink a gallon of milk a day!
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    And a large jar of jig a day

    Added with a large jar of jam and a loaf of bread a day!
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    You guys are messing with me! What about the vodka?
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    OK. First week in. Got SS. Got W/L for dummies and found a 2008 Men's Health book for training.

    Taking it easy. Got the "less weight slow 3 up, pause, 3 down" form is most important.

    Who recommends the alternating push pull routine. Also trainer told me at my age be very careful on the squats with bar on back. Recommended rather than on the back do hand held dumb bells. Should I do hanging down or up?

    Overall I'm feeling like a new man, just trying to "form a habit" by staying consistent (every work day even if for only cardio or stretching which I just discovered that stretching chair.

    Any thoughts on the steam sauna which I really enjoy. Some say it could be "infectious".

    Gotta tell ya there are some "Rock" dudes, but seem to be good guys.
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    mb, just pick a routine and acclimate yourself. The three sources you've referenced are wildly disparate. SS is concerned with moving weight from Point A to point B and increasing weight over time. three-up/three down is not concerned with weight but rather intensity. Bodypart splits typically have you isolating bodyparts, workimg them infrequently but bombarding them when you do.

    What is your primary goal ? And why would you do 'cardio' ?
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    seems like primary goal should be weight loss. 305 pounds at 5'8" seems in the obese range.
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    But since the vast majority of people who lose weight gain it back, aren't we asking them to pursue a fool's errand ?

    Better idea: since we know that most Americans could probably afford to be stronger and more active, shouldn't we just encourage them to be more active while savoring the foods they enjoy ?
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    Way to go vax. You got Dream off on his tangent.

    To me this quote makes no sense on any level. Just because few people achieve it doesn't mean nobody should try.

    If your son said "Dad, the vast majority of people who try for an A in Physics class still end up with a C anyway so why should I pursue a fool's errand?" Would you tell him that is a fine opinion to have?

    If your son said "Dad, the vast majority of people who apply for job X aren't going to get it so I'm not going to try", would you be ok with that?

    Just because something is difficult to do, and difficult to maintain doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. If anything it means you need to ramp UP the effort not turn it down.

    To quote Teddy Roosevelt, "Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty...."
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    *sighs* Everybody is welcome to try.

    *And they say I don't make sense*

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