Official Zimmerman Verdict watch thread

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    In Gainesville tonight they are having a rally for TM.
    Wonder how that will turn out and how much hate will be pumped into the young kids.
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    These 6 women after 3 weeks want to go home and join their families. They don't want to spend another weekend alone at some hotel.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they reach a verdict before 6 PM today.
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    Here's an article on ABC News that has more information about the various individual Jurors than I've seen reported anywhere else. Nothing about their occupations though.
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    Noted during John Gus rebuttal:

    Kyle Hightower ✔ @khightower

    Juror B29 just appeared to be wiping away a tear.

    .............
    Jeffrey Evan Gold @jeffgoldesq

    “@WPLGZimmerman: Juror E-6 has an expression of sadness”
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    If this is true, who's going to pump hate into these young kids?

    Is there a problem with people having a rally for a murdered human being? There doesn't seem to be a problem when people rally for dogs.
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    Who is John Gus?
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    Geez that seems pretty close to cause, in a case like this.
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    GZ's story falls apart with all of his lies. I say guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of 2nd degree murder. That was TM's death shriek.

    I believe if GZ is found guilty of second degree murder Nelson could give GZ life. Is that correct?
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    So the State's appeal to emotion and not facts, was effective ?
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    Interesting.
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    I certainly hope the 5th DCA had the trial on their electronic devices, or piped into chambers, because if there is a conviction for anything, there will be some doozy of appellate issues coming their way.
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    Penalties for Second Degree Murder

    The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.

    If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:

    Up to Life in prison.
    Up to Life on probation.
    Up to $10,000 in fines.

    10-20-Life

    Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years.

    http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/homicide/second-degree-murder.html
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    Actually I think conviction under either M2 or Manslaughter would invoke the Florida 10, 25 or Life - under that either could lead to a 25 to Life sentence
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    Did any witness who knows GZ hear that tape and say that is NOT him yelling? No.

    Did any witness who knows TM hear that tape and say that is NOT him yelling? Yes.

    Who? His own father.
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    Really doubt that question is going to have anything other than academic value in this case. Very marginal chance of a compromise verdict on manslaughter that would be very vulnerable on motion to set aside or on appeal; more likely an outright acquittal. 2nd degree murder is not where any smart money is going.

    She can sentence him to a maximum of life if convicted, not without the possibility of parole though, not for what was charged.
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    I haven't been posting in recent days but I have monitored the trial threads. To echo something Dave and others have said along the way, I'd like to thank all the TH trial watchers who shared information and insights during the trial. Your discussions made for interesting and enlightening reading.

    As for the poll, if I was voting I'd say NG but ever since OJ walked I've given up predicting outcomes in circus trials.
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    That is certainly chomp's hope, that the state's legally insufficient case will combine with a jury willing to ignore its instructions.

    But... hey, it's also just a sad story regardless. People gonna cry. Doesn't mean they are going to ignore their oaths.
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    Penalties for Manslaughter

    The crime of Manslaughter is classified as a Second Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 7 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.

    If convicted of Manslaughter, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 9¼ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:

    Up to 15 years in prison.
    Up to 15 years of probation.
    Up to $10,000 in fines.

    Manslaughter with a Weapon or Firearm

    The crime of Manslaughter with a Weapon or Firearm is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 7 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.

    If convicted of Manslaughter, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 9¼ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:

    Up to 30 years in prison.
    Up to 30 years of probation.
    Up to $10,000 in fines.

    http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/homicide/manslaughter.html
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