OFFICIAL: George Zimmerman Trial Thread Week 3

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  1. FlyingGatorII
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    Can you show evidence that this all started because TM was identified as black? The 911 tape showed GZ was prompted into what color he was. The only thing GZ saw was a hooded person acting suspicious. Why do you keep saying he was followed because he was black? Nor trying to be contrary but did I miss something?
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    And the guy got time served.

    That broke me, man.
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    All I can say to that is.....

    Quality Post
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    Guy has about 10 mins left of this nonsense, and than its up to jury.
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    Yep, although I don't necessarily think it will come up.

    Guy is just... common sense, common sense, common sense.

    I swear, this is the first time I've ever heard of the Chewbacca offense in a criminal prosecution.
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    I think so. If it takes them that long to come up with a verdict.
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    Thanks!

    Well, I guess this is a classic case where common sense tells one that Zimmerman's version of events doesn't ring true.
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    Great! And if the jury agrees... they should still acquit, because that is not and never has been the state's burden.
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    In my mind that is the question, why aren't even the blacks outraged by Chicago or any other city. Why aren't the whites related to methheads dying of violence or drug use outraged, and its not only whites on meth boss. I can almost see whites in small town USA to be indifferent to black crime, and blacks in urban America to be indifferent to white crime and violence in small town heartland America . What I don't get is Jesse and al not raising the roof it's not like they have trouble getting on tv, or whoever the white activist counterpart would be. Or even the regular joes and janes pitching a fit in whatever neighborhood. In la the other day 2 Hispanics shot 3 blacks and no outrage. I agree it's tragic , I just don't see this as criminal
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    This is a horrible close. So contradictory. Think about what he just told the Jury: It is absurd to think that if TM had seen the gun first, that GZ would have been able to shoot him right in the heart with it. Not if "fighting for his life" TM had seen it first.

    Now, if TM didn't know GZ had a gun then why was he "fighting for his life"? And the image of TM as a tough, scrappy fighter who wouldn't have let GZ get a shot off if he had seen the gun first...is that consistent with the rest of the State's "theory," such as it is?
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    A page of transcript per minute. Instructions, single spaced, take about two minutes or so per page, max.

    I haven't seen them, but I imagine that the justifiable use of deadly force will be repeated in entirety under each substantive instruction, IOW, under each lesser.

    Heard Guy going on about "the child, the child, the child."

    Emotion . . . not facts.
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    Man I would rip the prosecution a new one with a rebuttal. First of all he keeps hammering that Martin could have been backing away during the fight. The only problem with that scenario is that ballistics determined the gun was fired at an intermediate range between 1 and 18 inches. So much for that theory. Another point he keeps hammering is that the prosecution keeps saying it is physically impossible for GZ to get to his gun when Martin was straddling him. This is completely absurd, during the fight GZ could have gain enough momentum to push TM off of him just enough to get to the gun. Not to mention he keeps saying that TM was just a kid trying to get home. This is correct, but he was trespassing in a gated community in which there are huge signs posted out front. These guys are really trying to stretch it.
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    There is no rebuttal, this is the end or arguments. The state gets the last word. I am sure O'Mara would love to get up there and point out Guy is still encouraging assumptions and suppositions by the jury, but he can't.
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    Did not Zimmerman state that Trayvon threatened his life?
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    I agree. The state did a horrible job and didn't meet their burden.

    I've had a different take on this than many here however I'm fine with how the jury finds in this case.....it is what it is.
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    The course of the trial moved me from that position to one where I don't think a reasonable jury could convict and that the JOA probably should have been granted twice now.
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    I often pray for juries to be guided to the truth, and if they are not guided by the truth by the accusers and convinced of their proofs, to acquit in the truth.

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    Done.
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    Lived in LA for two years around 2004. Unbelievable the things that occur there that go unspoken.

    For the record, agree with your thoughts here, good questions all.
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