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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by DaveFla, Jul 1, 2013.
Wow. Just illustrates what most of us have know (and posted) all along: Just a tragic mess.
I guess it depends on whether you are a follower of the old testament god or new testament god. Jesus was a turn your cheek kind of guy. His father on the other hand, has been known to obliterate entire cities.
If you don't mind, what was GZ's reaction to her testimony?
Not sure how he didn't know the victim was dead when he was pronounced dead at the scene almost immediately when the cops arrived on the scene?
Listening to it while I work more than watching, but when I've glanced over they seem to be focusing primarily on the witness in this testimony.
The prosecution had to open redirect by asking the police officer "this is just your opinion, correct?" and "you would agree that what the jury believes happened is what is important, correct?" That's not usually something that you want to have to ask your own witness.
How many fights for your life have you been in to where you had to fire a weapon to save yourself? I would imagine it's incredibly hard to think pretty clearly in that situation. I don't think they kept GZ around to fill him in on the status of Tray von.
Defense is going through the second degree murder statute with the interviewing officer. "Was there any evidence at the time you talked to Mr. Zimmerman that in your opinion demonstrated spite? Ill will? Hatred?"
Cops don't make those sorts of determinations... Zimmerman likely was otherwise occupied when the EMT made that call.
The prosecutors appear to be some of the most inept I've seen. They are just looking for few words different in each statement by Zimmerman. If I had killed someone, I doubt I could get different interviews even close.
Did CNN really just air Zimmerman's date of birth and SS number?
Would it surprise you if they had?
I guess CNN isn't happy with the way this trial is headed...
Well, I can speak only for self, but I know my mind has disregarded tragic news before. During the invasion of Iraq, my CO woke me in the middle of the night to inform me that our squadron lost a helicopter and most of the crew in a mishap at Jalibah on 30 March. He very clearly told me that three were dead and one was miraculously alive. All I heard was the good news, though. The next morning we were discussing the crash before going to fly, and the CO mentioned that he had confirmed our wounded pilot was safe aboard a hospital ship. I then asked where the others were being treated. He looked at me deadpan and said, "They're dead, lieutenant." I'm reminded of that when I see the movie Contagion. That scene where a doctor is telling Matt Damon's character that his wife has died, and he's like, "Uh huh, so can I speak to her now?" The ability of the mind to hear what it wants to hear and believe what it wants to believe is surreal.
Assuming GZ feels the way I think I would in a situation like this, it's entirely plausible that he convinced himself that it was possible TM survived by the time he got to the aforementioned interview.
Am not able to follow the proceedings but I gather that it is going well for Zimmerman. In reviewing this "Week Two" thread I'm noticing the absence of the "string Zimmerman up from the nearest tree" contingent. Where did they go? They were here for Week One.
because Zimmerman was guilty until proven innocent in this case. With Martins parents in the court the Jury can see them and their pain knowing that they will never see their kid again.
First time I have heard of Martin's surprise attack on Zimmerman.
As for the manslaughter charge, I think Zimmerman can turn that down, they have to convict him on murder 2. Any lawyers want to confirm this?
It's ultimately up to the judge I would think, it's not like Zimmerman's defense gets a yes/no vote on lesser offenses that I know of.
Laws and rules be damned, do you really believe what you typed?
Well duh, the media wanted to keep Martins school records and the drug records sealed to keep that view of innocence. The media has had Zimmerman guilty from the start and if this came out their plan was bad
The detective just stated that he lied to Zimmerman to get him to say what he want to hear.
If that jerk admitted to that how can the jury take any evidence from him as the truth?
It's been that way on tv too.
Last week HLN had dozens of TM supporters to interview and chat about the "case".
This week not so much.....