OFFICIAL: George Zimmerman Trial Thread Week 1

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    May as well get this one started. Prosecution just completed their opening statement. Very well done, IMO.
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    Yup, it was good....like this attorney more than De la Rhonda. Defense should start in a few minutes.
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    Since this happened, many have been killed even several at a time. Don't see this as more important than those other lives and is a made for tv event, I will pass on.
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    The publicity of the trial isn't based on the act itself.
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    Yes. We can all see how disinterested you truly are.

    Like a driver passing by the scene of an auto accident, promising himself motto look. Then, when he comes to the accident, he looks...
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    Defense stumbles, BADLY, in their opening statement...

    A "knock-knock" joke?? Really????
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    The prosecution did a great job of blowing up the GZ account of events that many here have adopted as gospel.
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    No doubt that the judge and media are being pressured to make sure Zimmerman is found guilty.
    They can show what kind of person Zimmerman is and what he has done in past but can't show That Travon was a thug.
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    Just remember. The attorneys aren't under oath. They can say pretty much whatever they want to say.
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    Opening statements typically aren't seen as proving or disproving anything. If they were, they'd be called "the proof".
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    IMO, in a case such as this both the defendant's(Zimmerman) and Martin's previous actions, etc in regard to violence, drugs, etc for the past 15 years should be made available to the jury. There are aspects of both person's character(or lack thereof) that, IMO, are pertinent to a case in which credibility, racism, drugs, etc could certainly have contributed to the incident and/or address motives,etc of both Martin and Zimmerman.
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    The media can show the general public whatever it wants about either of them. What is shown to the jury is a different matter altogether. Actually, Zimmerman can put on evidence that Martin was a "thug", but it has to be reputation evidence if he has any, he can't call someone up there to say "I knew Trayvon Martin, and I think he was a thug" or call someone up there to talk about specific instances of him being "thuggish".

    The rules of evidence are what they are for good and valid reasons, even if their existence sometimes leads to guys like John Morgan making commercials to try to taint potential jurors away from those reasons and to assume that they are just they to screw people.
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    The result would be a jury that's mostly making a qualitative judgment about how V and D spent their last 15 years, which is against the interests of justice.
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    Even so, being a "thug" is neither a crime nor legal cause to kill someone. What would need to be shown - in my opinion - is a history of physical aggression while simultaneously ruling out the notion that said aggression was or would be caused by fear of harm or death.
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    West is rambling, confusing and disjointed.
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    Yes he is. Doesn't sound all that well prepared, does he?
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    A "history of aggression" is not proof that either party was aggressive in that encounter, though. At least, not legitimate proof in most respects. The reason it's down to reputation because at least, such as it might be, it would be the only way either of these two might have known of the other.
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    He's putting Zimmerman to sleep it seems.
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    So, the 911 transcripts show Martin was approaching Zimmerman "with his hand in his waistband"...

    I don't recall hearing that bit of evidence before.
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    No, I'm saying it's at least more valuable than proving someone was a "thug" or a "racist" or whatever incidental, tertiary details are unearthed.
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