Offensive Recruits Meyer Era

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    Plenty of people have said it. It just doesn't hold up to scrutiny when you watch the plays in 2009.

    Either Meyer forgot half the playbook when Mullen left, or the OCs handled playcall and design, with Meyer's stipulation being that they run a spread option.
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    Mullen ended up coaching in the box for that one after surgery, right?
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    I believe so. There was talk of that impacting our play that day.
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    I just watched a bunch of highlights of Miss St this year and it looks more like 2008 than 2009 ever did.
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    The 09 playcalling was way more draw up the middle heavy with way less reverses, jet sweeps, and down-field throws. This is a fact.

    It doesn't matter how bad you thought the 07-08 playcalling was, it was more diverse and better than the 09 playcalling.
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    You are wrong on this. There were many people calling for him to be fired in 07 and 08. Why do you think the playcalling spinner graphic was created? Just for fun? No, it was created because the playcalling was so predictable. Our offense still largely had the same plays in 09 as 08 the only difference was that a Harvin dive went for 6 yards against any defense while a Demps/Rainey dive went for 2-3 yards against good Ds.

    here is a good opinion piece in October 08 by the alligator:

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    Yes. We had little vertical game, the counter and reverses were AWOL, we never pitched the ball (eschewed mostly for the read option) and the shovel had all but disappeared.

    If you thought it was bad watching us run the same 10 plays for 15+ yards a clip, try watching 5 plays for 5 yards or less.
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    OBOB, I think plenty of people said it because they were still fiercely loyal to Meyer for "all he did for us." Many of us could clearly see that once Harvin was gone, there were few solutions. Rainey and Demps attempted to fill the role, but that is an impossibility for a once-in-a-generation player like Harvin.

    I've also watched all the games and saw the similarities. When the Harvin plays didn't work, Tebow tried to take the entire burden unto himself and he couldn't do it against Alabama. We had 49 offensive plays against Alabama in the SECCG and Tebow was accountable for 45 plays, either by passing or running the ball. Greg McElroy had 22 of 71 plays.

    When your quarterback has 92% of the plays, something is wrong. During the season, against AQ conference opponents, Tim carried the ball 50% of the time. Add to the 315 passes he made, he accounted for 70% of all offensive plays, either by passing or running.

    That was on Meyer and Tebow every bit as much, if not moreso, than it was on Addazio.
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    This just isn't true.

    In fact, Harvin's most successful plays were the counter ... mostly gone in 2009.
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    No question about it. What was wrong was - if I recall correctly - our RBs got fewer than 5 carries TOTAL the entire game.
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    It's FL/GA week and we're still obsessing over corch Meyers.....smh
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    Probably because, you know, some of his players are going to be in that very game.
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    Meyer's play calling has been fine at Ohio State. Maybe he finally learned how to be a good playcaller at ESPN?
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    Notably enough, his Ohio State offense bears little resemblance to 2007/2008 Florida sans the designed QB draw play.
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    Of the group you're talking about, Gillie, Reed and Harrison have been by far the most productive... and Patton is having a nice season this year. Joyer is a nice FB we use at times for blocking and rarely touches the ball.

    Two very good skill position players last year. One this year (maybe another with KT coming on). And an OL and a FB. How does that compare to the offensive talent on the teams we're trying to compete against for the SEC... UGA, USCe, Mizzou, LSU, Bama, aTm, etc?

    Halapio has been thru the wars for us. Love the work ethic, run blocking and hair. Pass pro has been a detriment in big games. Don't think that will translate to Sundays in a passing league.

    Nixon was not an SEC quality starter with us after his frosh year due to health issues. He's in the league on physical potential when healthy as opposed to his level of play on the Gators. I don't hold that against him, but he didn't belong on the field the last couple of years if we had adequate depth and talent.

    We should have gotten more out of Deonte. Needed to figure a way to work with him on focus on the easy catches where he had time... he just dropped too many of those. He'd make some super difficult "bang bang" catches though and definitely plenty athletic. NFL might be better for him just not having much time to think about a catch.

    Pointing out that guys like Green and Debose have a shot is interesting, and valid... but it does nothing for us from a talent perspective on our roster when they're injured more often than healthy... or in the dog house for poor work habits as Debose had been.

    So bottom line to your point on talented players actually healthy and productive on the field... we've been very thin.
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    This still kills me. I don't even have to go look it up, we ran someone other than Tebow to the outside four times, averaging 7 YPC. And then we stopped running players other than Tebow to the outside.
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    So what's been the problem then?
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    That's because Harvin was gone. We tried to fill the Harvin role with the likes of Demps and Rainey, but no disrespect to them but they were worlds below. Meyer's inability to get a top RB to sign here probably hurt us a lot after Harvin left.
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    So because Harvin was gone we abandoned half the playbook?

    Sorry, not buying it.
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    Not to mention some of those plays didn't even involve Harvin. We ran the jet sweep without him, ran the WR pitch without him, ran the TE shovel without him.

    All gone in 2009.

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