Offensive Recruits Meyer Era

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    Much is being said that with the exception of 2006, Urban Meyer's recruiting on offense was mediocre. Here is the raw data:

    Year----Pos---Name--------------------StarRank--------# Games Played------Drafted?

    2005........WR.....Boateng, Nyan...........****..........................5.........................N
    2005........OL......Codrington, Simon.....***............................6.........................N
    2005........TE.......Ellis, Brian..................***............................0.........................N
    2005........OL......Haupt, Eddie..............***............................4.........................N
    2005........RB......Moore, Kestahn..........***..........................53.........................N
    2005........WR.....Murphy, Louis.............***..........................48.........................Y (4th)
    2005........WR.....Nelson, David.............****........................44.........................N (w/o)
    2005........QB......Portis, Josh................****..........................6.........................N
    2005........OL......Wilson, Ronnie...........***............................8.........................N

    2006........OL......Barrie, Jim..................****..........................0.........................N
    2006........WR.....Cooper, Riley.............****........................50.........................Y (5th)
    2006........ATH....Jarred Fayson............****........................23.........................N
    2006........OL......Gilbert, Marcus...........****.......................52.........................Y (2d)
    2006........WR.....Harvin, Percy..............*****.....................36.........................Y (1st)
    2006........OL......Hurt, Maurice..............***.........................41.........................Y (7th)
    2006........ATH....James, Brandon..........***.........................51.........................N
    2006........OL......Johnson, Carl.............*****.....................50.........................N
    2006........TE.......Pupello, Trent............****.........................2.........................N
    2006........QB......Tebow, Tim................*****.....................55..........................Y (1st)
    2006........RB.......Walker, Chevon........****.........................5..........................N
    2006........WR......Williams, Justin.........****.......................47..........................N
    2006........WR......Williams, Mon...........****.........................9..........................N

    2007........QB.......Brantley, John..........****.......................29..........................N
    2007........TE........Hernandez, Aaron....****.......................40.........................Y (4th)
    2007........QB.......Newton, Cam...........*****......................20.........................Y (1st)
    2007........OL.......Pouncey, Maurkice....****........................41........................Y (1st)
    2007........OL.......Pouncey, Mike...........****........................54........................Y (1st)
    2007........RB.......Rainey, Chris.............****........................53........................Y (5th)
    2007........WR......Thompson, Deonte...****.........................52.......................N
    2007........QB.......Waggener, Bryan.....***.............................0.......................N
    2007........RB........Williams, Bo.............****...........................0.......................N
    2007........OL........Wilson, James.........*****........................38......................N
    2007........WR.......Wilson, Paul............***..............................2......................N

    2008........RB.........Demps, Jeff.............****..........................51......................N (w/o)
    2008........WR........Hammond, Frankie.****...........................48.....................N
    2008........WR........Hines, Omarius.......****...........................51.....................N
    2008........WR........Lawrence, TJ..........****.............................3.....................N
    2008........WR........Moore, Carl............*****..........................26.....................N
    2008........OL.........Patchen, Matt........*****..........................27.....................N
    2008........OL.........Roby, Sam.............***..............................45.....................N
    2008........OL.........Young, David.........***..............................29.....................N

    2009........OL.........Alajajian, Nick........****...........................30......................N
    2009........WR........Alli, Stephen..........***.............................36......................N
    2009........WR........Debose, Andre......*****.........................31......................N
    2009........RB.........Gillislee, Mike.........****...........................49......................Y (5th)
    2009........OL.........Halapio, Jon..........***..............................48.....................N
    2009........OL.........Harrison, Jon.........****............................46.....................N
    2009........OL.........Koehne, Kyle.........***..............................46.....................N
    2009........OL.........Nixon, Xavier.........****............................46.....................N
    2009........TE.........Parks, Desmond....***................................2.....................N
    2009........QB........Reed, Jordan.........****............................35.....................Y (3d)

    2010........RB.........Brown, Mack..........****............................32.....................N
    2010........QB........Burton, Trey...........***..............................42.....................N
    2010........TE.........Christian, Gerald....****............................15.....................N
    2010........WR........Coxson, Adrian......****..............................0.....................N
    2010........WR........Dunbara, Quinton..****............................32.....................N
    2010........WR........Dunkley, Chris.......****..............................0......................N
    2010........OL.........Green, Chaz..........****............................20......................N
    2010........TE..........McFarland, Michael ***...............................0......................N
    2010........QB.........Murphy, Tyler........**................................10......................N
    2010........WR.........Patton, Solomon..****.............................38......................N
    2010........OL..........Silberman, Ian.....****...............................4......................N

    Cut and paste for your records next time people want to say anything reagrding the Meyer offense...
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    Meyer was a good offensive recruiter until his final years (mainly in his first 2 full classes), but his playcalling was terrible. Even his 09 class featured two 5 star OL (scout).
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    Meyer did not call the plays.
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    That's what he meant. He was so terrible at calling plays that he didn't even bother calling plays.

    Pretty terrible, when you think about it.
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    The 2008-2010 classes look pretty weak.
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    Harrison and Halapio will definitely play in the NFL. I'd bet Joyer will too. Patton might get a shot as a slot receiver and Andre Debose could well make an NFL roster also. Green, IMO has a good shot of making it in the NFL.

    Deonte Thompson - much as people called him a bust, is on an NFL roster.
    Xavier Nixon - much as people called him a bust, is on an NFL roster.

    From last year's Offense:

    Nixon, Harrison, Halapio, Gillislee, Reed already are on NFL teams or definitely will be on NFL squads while

    Green, Joyer, Patton and Debose have a shot.

    For anybody saying there was no talent on Offense...ummm...how many future NFLers do you need in order to produce results far better than what we saw and are seeing? Plenty of Offenses are far more productive with far fewer talented players.
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    I'd say only if you're basing it on who was drafted, which is a weird metric to use particularly given many of the players are still on the team.
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    It was his offense. The playcalling was just as bad under Mullen as Addazio. The only difference between Addazio and Mullen was Percy Harvin. People have revisionist history. The playcalling was so predictable under Mullen that the playcalling spinner graphic was created in 07 that mocked the predictable playcalling. Many Gator fans wanted Mullen fired between 05 until a week after the Ole Miss loss in 08.
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    Meyer was a very good recruiter, but struggled bringing in the big WR and RB and instead had success with the little speed guys. We seem to be now bringing in those very people that Meyer could not get, which is why I am hopeful things will be turning around.
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    Actually, it was pretty patently different and a bunch of us noted how the nuances of a good spread option eluded Addazio, particularly as it related to the disappearance of pitches, reverses and counters in 2009.
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    It was the same. Playcalling under Mullen even in 08 was just as predictable as Addazio playcalling. We all knew which plays were coming, but you just could not stop it. We all knew Harvin dives and pitches were coming but you just could not stop him. A Harvin dive was a guaranteed 5-6 yards no matter the defense he went against. When Harvin left that also left. No one else could fill the Harvin role in. I remember when I watched every single game in 08 I could see which plays were coming, but the 08 UF offense was one of the most loaded offenses in cfb history so they had the luxury of being nearly unstoppable.

    Are you guys really gonna ignore how a large portion of the fan base wanted Mullen fired between 05 and 08 Ole Miss? Or ignore how the playcalling was so predictable that in 07 a playcalling spinner graphic exploded in popularity that consisted of like 5 plays all involving Harvin and Tebow that made fun of the predictable offense (Harvin dive, Tebow dive, bomb to Harvin etc)? Did all of this suddenly disappear from the annals of Gator history?
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    Really, it wasn't. If you watch the games and watch the plays, it was different. The spread option was Meyer's sandbox and Mullen and Addazzio played in it in different ways.

    This is an exaggeration. He was incredibly unpopular in 2005, for reasons that should surprise nobody. If you're going to tell me that offense was the source of criticism in the second half of 06 and through 07, I'm going to say that there is certainly some revisionism happening, but not what you described.
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    so your point is that with the exception of a recruiting class that won 2 National Championships, it was just okay?
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    The counter, the pitch, the WR pitch, drag routes, slant routes and to a large degree the shovel pass all essentially disappeared after 2008.

    Did Meyer suddenly decide to stop calling these plays? Think about it.
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    Please, nobody was calling for Mullen's head in 2007 and 2008, years where we put up record yards and points.

    That, quite frankly, is the revisionism.

    Indeed. And it was accurate. But the complaint wasn't that it wasn't working.

    Take most of those plays. They were gone in 2009. Our offense changed significantly.
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    You don't think so?
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    Wasn't it Muschamp and his Auburn defense that sent Mullen into appendiceal rupture?
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    No, he had his surgery right before the game.
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    I've been saying this for years in the face of near total apathy...

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