OBC will never stop stirring the pot!...

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    I never understood this sentiment. Spurrier left UF to see if he had what it took at the next level, not for USCe. How many people look back on their lives and wonder if they could have done something but didn't because they were scared to take the chance. Spurrier was never scared to see if it could be done. In hind-sight, he may wish he had never left but I doubt it. SOS left Florida at a place many thought we would never be.
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    If Steve had the same FSU that Urban had, there's no doubt he would have had at least one more NC, maybe more.

    When Spurrier was at Florida, he was like Johnny Manziel, loved by his own fans, despised by everyone else.
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    I'd rather follow the Foley model and hire someone that has experience.
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    This... but I do miss the fun & gun. :grin:
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    The fun and gun has been dead since Spur's left for the NFL. He has won at USCe with defense and in their 10-11 win seasons with defense, a strong running game and a few timely throws. He will win in Athens again this year on the strength of his D.

    It would be better for us for the Dogs to win. USCe has the easier SEC schedule this year and doesn't play Bama, LSU or aTm. Either way we need to beat both to be certain we go to Atlanta. Beating USCe in Columbia will be a major task. We'll need to get better each week and hope USCe is full of itself as Spur's used to say.
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    Spurrier took this program to a level. Meyer raised it even higher and I am hoping Muschamp takes us to even new heights. I think it worked out well for both of us. Like most jobs in this world---there is not a single person who isn't replaceable.
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    I never said he was using it in USC. I simply said I missed it. That is all...

    I'd rather we beat both teams than root for UGA in any way, shape, or form. I hope UGA loses Saturday, and every Saturday... for ever.
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    I found no fault in how UF handled it. As I understood it, SOS wanted the job handed to him, UF wanted him to come in for an interview. Steve refused and took his name out of the hat. After Steve left, then wanted to return, UF officials had every right to be concerned where his head and heart were.
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    BINGO! The Gator program prior to SOS was mediocre. No SEC championships since its inception in 1933. Tom McEwen of the Tampa Tribune once said that the day after Florida wins its first SEC championship the graveyards would be full of Gator fans reading the headlines to those who have passed on who never experienced a championship. Bear Bryant said if Florida ever gets a good head coach, they will be dangerous. Coach Spurrier was that coach. Every good thing that has happened to Florida football is the result of Coach Spurrier. He legitimized our arrogance.
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    I'm not sure anyone knows what -- if anything -- happened with Foley and SOS after Zook was sent packing. Folks who have a negative view of SOS these days (mostly younger Gators in my opinion) always make this claim. They also usually throw in the "my resume is in the trophy case" line too.

    Thing is, I can't recall anyone speaking about it who would have had knowledge of what (again, if anything) happened.

    I love the job Coach Muschamp is doing. Absolutely bought in during our run last year.

    But SOS is still the greatest Gator to me. I admire the heck out of the guy.
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    Spurrier as an A.D. - are you serious? Kinda think he would have less than zero interest in being an administrator. He would be a figurehead at best - playing golf while someone else was actually running the department.
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    Meyer was the hottest coaching prospect in the country to move up to a bigger program than Utah. Foley pulled a real coup in getting him away from ND. SOS was coming off a big fail with the Redskins and there was a question about how much fire he had left in him if he returned to UF. I thought it was an insult to ask him to submit a resume if that actually happened but otherwise I was much happier to see Meyer here than I would have been SOS.
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    I know no one wants to talk about the elephant in the room, but Charley Pell began the foundation of what Gator football is today.

    Spurrier raised the bar by winning all of those SEC championships and a national championship.

    Meyer added his 2 SECs and 2 NCs.

    Muschamp is going to add his first SEC and NC this season. :wave:

    The Gator football foundation started with Charley Pell. I'll always count 84 as UF's first SEC and 85 and 90 as ill begotten gains by Tennessee.
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    His hatred for UGA is deep and goes WAY back......1966...His SR year.
    7th ranked UF entered the game with a 7-0 record and the opportunity to clinch a share of their 1st SEC title.He had just locked up the Heisman trophy the week b4 with a great win vs Auburn.Uga beat the Gators 27-10 and he threw 3 int's.....When he became the HBC he made it clear that Uga was the biggest game on UF's schedule going 11-1 vs them.
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    Meh, defense wins championships. And he got lucky in '96 that there wasn't a BSC system in place.
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    If Steve had the same SEC Urban had, he may not have won any.

    I see Urban for D-bag he is now that he isn't hoisting crystal for us. But I was STOKED when we hired him and glad we didn't take SOS back. I felt at that time like SOS lost his fire. He may have gotten it back. I hope so. I really do love the OBC. I was at UF from '94-98
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    If SOS had Meyer's LSU teams, he may have won fewer SEC titles. It works both ways.

    Look at the W/L Records of regular opponents during the 1990-2001 era and the 2002-12 era (not counting ties):

    Opponent-------------1990-2001---------------2002-2012--------Better era

    Florida State..................136-19 (.877)...............97-48 (.669)............1990s
    Tennessee.....................118-28 (.808)...............80-59 (.576)............1990s
    Georgia..........................88-51 (.633)..............110-36 (.753)............2000s
    LSU...............................72-65 (.525)..............115-30 (.793)............2000s
    USCe.............................60-73 (.451)................72-56 (.562)............2000s
    Kentucky........................48-87 (.355)................59-76 (.437)............2000s
    Vandy............................39-93 (.295)................46-87 (.346)............2000s
    2d SEC West...................94-44 (.681)...............104-36 (.743)............2000s
    3d SEC West...................66-69 (.489).................63-70 (.474)...........1990s (wash)
    Other OOC AQ Opp...........14-9 (.609)..................38-14 (.731)............2000s

    Totals..........................735-538 (.577)..............784-512 (.605)..........2000s

    Basically, SOS had to play two great teams a year, with an occasional 3d team sprinkled in. Meyer (and Zook and Muschamp) usually played three great teams, with a 4th occasionally sprinkled in.
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    On behalf of the 1980s Gatos here who REMEMBER...

    1984: SEC champions
    1983-5: 9-2-1, 9-1-1, 9-1-1 = 27-4-3, an .838 winning percentage. That was Spurrier-caliber, and it wasn't done with just one player. Those were strong TEAMS.

    Speak for yourself. Arrogance is NEVER legitimate. And we were just as good from 1983-5, before sanctions hit. Tom McEwen was the Pope of Our Lady of the Holy Visor, the Arch Bishop among Spurrier worshippers. What he wrote has to be taken with a Gulf of Mexico's worth of salt...
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    I agree. I think Meyer was picked (and Zook was fired) the day Bernie Machen came to Florida.
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    Really? you might want to take a look at his last year at UF. I think it was very much alive.

    Agree he hasn't been able to run as well at USC but i think that has to do with personel more than it not working.

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