Obama's Link to the Muslim Brotherhood?

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    Obama is much more a Romulan than a Klingon, IMO.
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    fake scandals only produce genuine outrage when republicans are in the white house.
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    "Yeah, imagine that, a sitting president of the United States supporting a democratically elected president of a foreign country. Strange, isn't it?"

    Yes it is strange considering that U.S. policy has always been "spreading democracy". But since President Obama is the current president, there HAS to be something sinister about his support for a DEMOCRATICALLY elected president. The mindless blind hatred
    for this president by some is truly pathetic. Again, pathetic.
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    Yep.
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    Don't the Communists in China have elections? The Liberal default of democracy is ridiculously simplistic and erroneous.

    If we could legally stone to death people in the streets here in the U.S. would you call that "Democracy" just because we elected another someone that condones it as our leader?

    Would we be a democracy if we treated women and minorities like wild dogs in the streets?

    The meaning of Democracy is not what the liberals here say it is.

    Elections alone does not constitute a Democracy!


    When they get freedom of Religion, freedom of the press, freedom from for all minorities, hen we'll talk about their governance and it's proper status. But right now it's not even close to a Democracy.
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    Actually yes.

    Still yes. Probably not one I would want to live in, but assuming there were popular elections happening that allowed those who had been determined eligible to vote to participate equally in creating laws (or selecting leaders to create laws) it is a democracy within the meaning of that term.

    It's certainly not a "liberal democracy" within the meaning of that term, but it is a democracy. I don't know if this confusion arises from the misuse of political system names where "anything good = democracy, anything bad = socialist" or what, but whether something is a democracy or not doesn't really have anything to do with whether it is terribly civilized in actions or recognizes universal human rights.
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    Not to be on the side of libs but didn't we critisize O for ignoring the plight of his half brother allegedly because his brother was not anti-colonionalist as O is. Forgive the misspellings.
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    Then what do you call China? They vote too... are then a Democracy?
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    Sort of - because they only sort of have elections. The PRC only has direct elections for the Local Peoples' Congresses. Everything from there up is indirectly elected by the body of government directly below it.

    What makes China not really a democracy though is the Communist Party of China ("CPC") regulations which require officials to implement the recommendations of the CPC, including recommendations for nomination to office. That means eligible voters are not entitled to participate equally in the creation of the laws, which is the major divorce from the definition of democracy.
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    Not the kind of "Klingon" I'm thinking about. He's all Klingon...:grin:

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