Obamacare Website now in a Copyright Infringement Scandal

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  1. DowntownGator
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    This just in: even more shocking than its $500 million price tag, Obama and his minions stole computer code for the healthcare.gov website. Well, the code is open source as you will find out but Obama doesn't include the copyright notice or give credit to its authors ... mainly because they don't respect the very laws they enforce. It's a pattern.

    That being said, it is amazing how a $500+ million dollar website turned out to be worth $0 on the market since it was built from free open source software. The thieves and con artists working for and in the government know no bounds:

    Obamacare Website Violates Licensing Agreement for Copyrighted Software

    Will DHS now seize Healthcare.gov?

    The Department of Homeland Security has seized hundreds of other websites that it says were engaged in piracy.

    These website seizures are conducted completely outside of law and utterly without due process. When sites are seized by DHS, the following notice is placed on the website home page:

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    This notice reads, in part:

    Willful copyright infringement is a federal crime that carries penalties for first time offenders of up to five years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution.

    Will the developers of Healthcare.gov who pirated the DataTables software from SpryMedia now be sentenced to federal prison?

    Don't hold your breath on that one! Lol!
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    I don't think you understand what this is. It isn't piracy.
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    You forgot to read the link in the less than 60 seconds you took to shoot off your mouth. Where's the fire?

    The computer code that was stolen is called DataTables, and it is exclusively provided under a GPL v2 license which requires anyone who uses the software code to keep the copyright notice visible in the code itself. This allows the original author of the code to receive attribution for creating it.

    An analysis of the code running Healthcare.gov reveals that the Obamacare development team maliciously removed the copyright notice and credit attributions from the code while copying and using the rest of the code. In the field of journalism, this would be called "plagiarism." In the field of computer software, it's called "piracy."

    Ergo, because the copying of the software was NOT authorized (unless the original copyright notice was visible in the code itself, which was NOT done), it was pirated.
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    Actually, I read it in another thread. That isn't how software licenses work. They're agreements for continued use.

    It's absolutely not piracy. It's also not tantamount to plagiarism, because its use is granted with citation. It's the equivalent of not citing your source.

    How do you fix this? You put the credit back in the source code.
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    Let's put it another way. This was the old software license EULA for Itunes on Windows. It stipulated that you violated the license if you installed it on a non-Apple device.

    Doing so, of course, wouldn't be piracy. But in technical terms you could see civil action for doing so based on accepting the agreement.
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    The term "piracy" is used to refer to the unauthorized copying, distribution and selling of works in copyright. That's EXACTLY what software licensing agreements try to prevent and the Obamacare website breached the licensing agreement with its unauthorized copying of the code. Take credit for software code and distribution of same but provide no copyright notice from the original code = piracy. Easy.

    Google is your friend. Now go find a credible legal definition of "piracy" that does NOT mean the unauthorized copying, distribution and selling of works in copyright.

    Good luck.
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    ^ See above. It's an agreement that's amenable. Theft is not.
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    Its open source software, nothing will come about of this because the purpose of the software was for it to be shared and used by other people. The problem is what OBOB mentioned.
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    Right, and open source agreements are violated all of the time. Typically it's intended for credit and it's good policy.

    But if you found out your script was being used without credit on a $100M project, you better believe you'd lawyer up.

    Unfortunately, it's fixed by restoring credit to the script (or very often, replacing the script entirely).
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    Dems and liberals will argue that it isn't piracy. It's just wealth redistribution. The government is certainly entitled to take an individual's wealth (creation) and redistribute it (use it to create Obozocare) amongst themselves for the good of others (aka for profit).
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    Im all for bashing anything and everything Obama/gubment but this isn't a government thing. This literally happens daily with companies and developers in the tech industry.

    Open source was made for this type of thing, but you need to properly cite the creator of the source code.
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    Sarcasm.....
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    Anybody care to explain how a website that was built on free code and also still doesn't expletive-deleted work after three years in what one condescendingly might call development, still managed to cost over $600 million?

    Any private concern, and we have long since blown past shareholder meeting to throw out the board, there would probably be a criminal investigation.
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    Couldn't they have enlisted Zuckerberg to write the code?? Facebook knows more about me than my wife and family!

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    Yup and so does the NSA because of it.
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    Man...you Pubs really get your panties in a wad...and then when another Pub actually tells you this happens within the tech industry...you still clamor on...

    Did you hear that the air that Obama breathes around him has a higher oxygen level than the rest of us? I will find the website...
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    Not true, Obama just thinks it does. :grin:
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    LMFAO! Rep! :grin:

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