Obama wants the country to feel PAIN in order to get his way

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  1. g8orbill
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    please that is certainly the narrative you libs and the LMSM want to put forward but it is hardly the case

    85% is operating and there are bills to fund all sorts of things that Harry Reid refuses to take to the Senate floor for a vote and then your beloved Prez is doing his best to make people suffer- George Bush may not have been a good pres in a lot of ways but he would never ever tell his admin to make this slowdown hurt as much as possible- says a helluva lot more about the kind of person prezBO really is-I can't say what I really would like to see happen to the ........
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    What's funny is ... it would kill so many of these lefties to admit their leftie heroes effectively accomplished what some/many of the staunch Tea Partiers wanted. Via their leadership failures, these leftie heroes (Obama and Reid) brought about a partial slowdown of the federal government. The Tea Partiers didn't have to do a thing but stand back and watch the left's insanity.

    Unfortunately ..... this partial slow down is not enough and the left is about to cause this nation financial/economic damage from which it may never recover. $17 trillion in debt .... $8 trillion over just the last 4-5 years.

    Simply unbelievable.
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    compromise => somewhere between standing firm and capitulating,

    do you recognize that there is a color between black and white?

    the tea party is trying to get spending under control so this country does not implode on future generations but some do not sem concerned with what happens later, only how it impacts them now.:cry:
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    A restaurant in Yorktown (yes that famed Rev War town) was ordered by Fed Parks Dept to close. It is a privately owned restaurant that has a lease to operate on Fed owned property. The tenant is responsible for utilities, taxes, mtn, etc. The lease is a "property right".

    For the Libs here who do not understand property rights, it means that the tenant has use of the real property under the terms and duration of the lease. If the landlord, in this case the Fed Govt, is off doing something else like having political issues that does not negate the rights of the tenant.

    No different than if a Liberal rented a house from a couple. The couple file for divorce. Would the Liberal tenant lose his/her property rights due to the litigation/fight between the couple? No.

    0bamao is a small minded petty thug. Think: Treyvon Martin. Skippy Gates. Washington Redskins.
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    Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Ford, Nixon all managed to deal with the opposition but it seems that 0 feels he is above compromise of any sort. His scorched earth get in the back of the bus mentality is what ahs created this situation. How can you fail to see that? Why has every other president in the history of this country been able to work with opposition but this one cannot?
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    So a essentially allow the baggers to get their way...fund everything but what they want?
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    Maybe you shouldn't allow your president to rack up major debt in times of relative economic prosperity and leave a sh!t sandwich for the Gov to deal with as the private sector is no where to be found as the economy stalls
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    I don't believe I'm going to post this, but you have a great point.
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    Or ... maybe a smarter more qualified PotUS in 2008 would not have irresponsibly wizzed away ... "in an unpatriotic fashion indicative of a leadership failure" .... another $8 trillion over the last 4-5 years.

    Maybe someone else (a qualified leader) would have the talent and experience to work through the 2013-14 budget process with both the Senate and House and there would not have been a partial slowdown and need to raise the debt ceiling in Oct-2013.

    But thanks to uninformed citizens, illegal aliens, and dead people voting for the brilliant barrister from Chi-town ... we'll never know. Now, instead, we face the adverse consequences of his failures and resultant damage to the nation's financial condition ... damage from which it may never fully recover.

    Going back to 2008 ... it was obvious to many that servicing, then retiring, $8-9 trillion in debt was going to be a monumental task requiring effective leadership and a focused commitment from the American people. Unfortunately, with Prince Barry's election and his subsequent failures ... we've lost almost 5 years and added $8 trillion in debt ... and may very well be facing an insurmountable task.

    And the left whistles past the graveyard ... as Barry and Harry and Nancy fiddle as an ensemble over the fires.
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    The opposition is batsh*t crazy, unlike the past.

    If you are trying to decide where to go out to eat and you suggest Chinese and your friend suggests anthrax served on a hubcap, there is no way to split the difference between those options.
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    ......... and the left would definitely know about this form of insanity. You obviously do not recall the actions of the left in the 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s. Heck ... even today they're still tossing bombs and engaging in profoundly irresponsible acts - $8 trillion in debt in 4+ years???????

    Too much anthrax laced Chinese?
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    Hope you don't think McCain would have been that POTUS. He wouldn't have been.
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    108 again you point out what is always th e way libs negotiate-they never move-the only way to negotiate is for pubs to come towards them

    now there are some dems in both houses who are sayng we have to meet in the middle so maybe just maybe that will happen
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    So what would you shut down since you don't have funds to run all.

    See if you can do it without impacting anyone..

    That is why this it on congress alone. They fund the nation, and no one can run everything without that funding.

    The party meanwhile looks more idiotic while trying to make a guy who will never run again look bad.
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    A group like the Tea Party funded by big industry and business isn't all American and apple pie.....it has an agenda handed to them by their benefactors for their own interests. Most who have common sense do want spending under control....but that's not what the TP is all about.....their goal is to hand over as much of public dollars and public lands to private corporations as possible for private profit.

    One thing that always puzzles me is the worry over monetary legacy to future generations without a peep about the environmental legacy.....today's relaxation of regs will result in poor human health and cancer from poor air and water quality. Future generations will be saddled with that and the cost of the clean up for today's private profit.
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    You can (like Obama) blame Bush for our debt but facts are facts and Obama has racked up more debt than all previous presidents combined.
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    Funny because his president is about to leave our country in worse shape in a few years.... Damn hypocrites.
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    Ask anyone who dealt with Obama when he was a community organizer. That was what he did.
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    Poor, poor Tea Partiers. Why is Obama so unreasonable?
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    I swear, throw anything out there and hope it sticks.....which is it? Community organizer who's a wimpy, poor leader or a Chicago political thug?

    Say anything to distract from the TP's actions here to steal our democracy.

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