Obama Regime damaging to minority education

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    Keep 'em stupid, keep 'em dependent, keep 'em voting democrat, keep 'em on the plantation. All the while having 'em think he's their savior.
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    Just don't get why you lower the target. If anything, raise the target. Shoot for the moon and you may miss but also could hit a star.
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    NCLB had major flaws. The biggest one was zero oversight for reporting. With so much riding on improving test scores, and no way to check what was being reported was accurate, of course people fudged the numbers. Atlanta was the biggest scandal. This article spells out the problems well, and also mentions there were other scandals in Texas and Ohio.

    It calls into question the accuracy of all the numbers, in my opinion. How do we know the gains made under Bush are real? How do we know that relative stagnation of the numbers under Obama don't represent bigger gains, because states don't have the incentive to lie because their budgets aren't dependent on better numbers? The author in the OP's link gives credit to the NAEP, and they do a good job with the numbers given to them. But if you can't verify the numbers, all you get is GIGO.

    That's not to say NCLB is bad, or didn't do some good things. But the bill had a huge flaw in it tying district, school, and teacher pay to test scores without allowing for a way to make sure people were reporting the scores honestly. Obama relaxing the law didn't help much either.
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    Learning is a rich and complex exercise that may not fit as well as everyone would like into a single number on a test. Not everything has to be about enslaving voters. Here is a good discussion on the topic:

    What do school tests measure?

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