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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Jul 20, 2013.
Factcheck tallies it every quarter:
I guess they use the definition of "jobs", just like unemployment rate, quite loosely.
As I posted before, very few industries have reported a net increase in jobs since 2001 outside of those living off of the government. The so-called job gains were wiped out by the immigration influx for about the same period as well
But at least fat white lawyers and lobbyists in DC are living among the 1% with the Wall Street people. So the white liberal media is happy.
Factcheck...river's bible. And it most certainly IS left biased. Been proven as such, and not worthy of viewing anymore, or in river's case--using as a source.
Not surprisingly however, river continues to cite it as if it is credible and something to be proud of.....which is most definitely not worthy.
which numbers do you dispute?
Obama jobs consist of either working part time or being a full time mail box watcher for the next guvmint check from Obama's stash. Household income is down $5 K since he took office. We have 3.3 M less workers than in 2007. And of those Obama job gains, check the part time. Check the service industry gains. And the Fed continues to buy $85 B in bonds monthly. Monthly. With no end in sight until employment gains occur. Try 2017 and another administration.
Obama has done zero to help the economy and lots to slow it down. The great divider has fulfilled one campaign promise...he does have the most transparent administration I've ever seen.
Yeah, conservatives here try to pretend that facts aren't real.
S&P 500 the day Obama was inaugurated - 805
S&P 500 Friday - 1692.
Increase - 110 percent
River....it is always YOUR facts which you obtain from a left wing source and claim to always be accurate. So no one takes your claims and sources as serious anymore....they have proven to be inaccurate more times than not due to 'adjustments' or whatever reason the administration/source deems to use as an excuse to 'correct' them.
Your factcheck source carries no weight at this stage in the game anymore. Factcheck itself, isn't worthy of debate, argument, or even discussion.
FWIW...the S&P numbers--you are attributing that to Hussein? Wow....just wow.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
You need to make up your mind.Are you claiming the numbers aren't true, or that they had nothing to with Obama?
My mind IS made up....Hussein has done nothing to help or improve the economy, AND your continued use of factcheck to help support your deep rooted love and adoration for your savior Hussein has worn itself out. Your constant claims of factcheck being the standard with which to measure all things holds no weight in here anymore and certainly has no merit. Your undying defense of the biggest failure in WH history has also worn thin as most in here are continuously illustrating just how epic a failure he is and your biased and slanted claims do nothing to help your cause.
Clear enough for ya now? And just so you know, I think no one in here--especially me--care to play your liberal game of semantics which you so fervently attempt in each and every thread. Your shtick doesn't work anymore in here.
President Obama took over during a tough economic period. That should be noted. However, the jobs are almost all part time or temporary. Workforce participation is at all time lows. Only a flat out liar would try and spin that. Let's see what happens during the 2nd half of this year. I'm remain hopeful that we will start to see some real job gains.
unfortunately, this kind of stuff is becoming the face of conservatives in America.
So which of those facts aren't accurate? Or do we have a case of reality having a liberal bias going on here?
don't ask him. he doesn't know.
but for those actually interested in facts, there they are. some are good, some aren't. whether the president has an impact on exports or employment or the stock market, I don't know.
but there they are.
Anyone with half a brain should be able to see what is coming. Just open your eyes and look at the facts. The following are 40 stats that prove the U.S. economy has already been collapsing over the past decade...
#1 According to the World Bank, U.S. GDP accounted for 31.8 percent of all global economic activity in 2001. That number dropped to 21.6 percent in 2011.
#2 The United States was once ranked #1 in the world in GDP per capita. Today we have slipped to #14
#3 The United States has fallen in the global economic competitiveness rankings compiled by the World Economic Forum for four years in a row.
#4 Since the year 2000, the size of the U.S. national debt has grown by more than 11 trillion dollars.
#5 Back in the year 2000, our trade deficit with China was 83 billion dollars. Last year, it was 315 billion dollars.
#6 In the year 2000, about 17 million Americans were employed in manufacturing. Today, only about 12 million Americans are employed in manufacturing.
#7 The United States has lost more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities since 2001.
#8 The United States has lost a staggering 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.
#9 Between December 2000 and December 2010, 38 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Ohio were lost, 42 percent of the manufacturing jobs in North Carolina were lost and 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in Michigan were lost.
#10 Back in 1998, the United States had 25 percent of the world’s high-tech export market and China had just 10 percent. Today, China’s high-tech exports are more than twice the size of U.S. high-tech exports.
#11 In 2002, the United States had a trade deficit in "advanced technology products" of $16 billion with the rest of the world. In 2010, that number skyrocketed to $82 billion.
#12 The United States has lost more than a quarter of all of its high-tech manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.
#13 The number of full-time workers in the United States is nearly 6 million below the old record that was set back in 2007.
#14 The average duration of unemployment in the United States is nearly three times as long as it was back in the year 2000.
#15 Throughout the year 2000, more than 64 percent of all working age Americans had a job. Today, only 58.7 percent of all working age Americans have a job.
#16 The official unemployment rate has been at 7.5 percent or higher for 54 months in a row. That is the longest stretch in U.S. history.
#17 The U.S. government says that the number of Americans "not in the labor force" rose by 17.9 million between 2000 and 2011. During the entire decade of the 1980s, the number of Americans "not in the labor force" rose by only 1.7 million.
#18 The average number of hours worked per employed person per year has fallen by about 100 since the year 2000.
#19 The U.S. economy continues to trade good paying jobs for low paying jobs. 60 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were mid-wage jobs, but 58 percent of the jobs created since then have been low wage jobs.
#20 The U.S. economy lost more than 220,000 small businesses during the recent recession
#21 The percentage of Americans that are self-employed has steadily declined over the past decade and is now at an all-time low.
#22 According to economist Tim Kane, the following is how the number of startup jobs per 1000 Americans breaks down by presidential administration...
Bush Sr.: 11.3
Bush Jr.: 10.8
#23 In the year 2000, there were only 17 million Americans on food stamps. Today, there are more than 47 million Americans on food stamps.
#24 In the year 2000, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages was approximately 21 percent. Today, the ratio of social welfare benefits to salaries and wages is approximately 35 percent.
#25 Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the average price of a gallon of gasoline in the United States has risen from $1.85 to $3.64.
#26 More than twice as many new homes were sold in the United States in 2005 as will be sold in 2013.
#27 Right now there are 20.2 million Americans that spend more than half of their incomes on housing. That represents a 46 percent increase from 2001.
#28 The price of ground beef increased by 61 percent between 2002 and 2012.
#29 According to USA Today, water bills have actually tripled over the past 12 years in some areas of the country.
#30 In 1999, 64.1 percent of all Americans were covered by employment-based health insurance. Today, only 55.1 percent are covered by employment-based health insurance.
#31 Median household income in the United States has fallen for four years in a row.
#32 As I mentioned recently, the homeownership rate in America is now at its lowest level in nearly 18 years.
#33 Back in the year 2000, the mortgage delinquency rate was about 2 percent. Today, it is nearly 10 percent.
#34 Median household income for families with children dropped by a whopping $6,300 between 2001 and 2011.
#35 Back in 2007, about 28 percent of all working families were considered to be among "the working poor". Today, that number is up to 32 percent even though our politicians tell us that the economy is supposedly recovering.
#36 According to the Federal Reserve, the median net worth of families in the United States declined "from $126,400 in 2007 to $77,300 in 2010".
#37 According to the New York Times, the average debt burden for U.S. households that earn $20,000 a year or less "more than doubled to $26,000 between 2001 and 2010".
#38 Medicare spending increased by 138 percent between 1999 and 2010.
#39 During Obama's first term, the federal government accumulated more debt than it did under the first 42 U.S presidents combined.
#40 Today, more than a million public school students in the United States are homeless. This is the first time that has ever happened in our history. That number has risen by 57 percent since the 2006-2007 school year
I mean really, nobody buys your BS except the 3 other whack jobs who always agree with you.
winagain....you didn't provide a link. Capt Factcheck will deny and dispute all your info if it isn't verified and confirmed by his liberal sources. And even when done, the left in here will spin it to make appear as if you twisted Hussein's numbers to discredit his fine efforts in restoring the US economy. Be particularly careful on #16, the unemployment numbers as the libs in here ALWAYS put up THEIR numbers to support their fine and proven Messiah......which are always proven incorrect shortly afterwards.
Just giving you fair warning on what is coming from the Spin and Defend Team, which is followed by their upper echelon--the Lie and Deny Force.
I'm sure those facts are all true, or I will assume they are.
Many are for statistics between 2000 and 2010 which spans 2 and possible parts of 3 administrations so to try and spin them as partisan is laughable. The trend on many metrics has been negative for years if not decades ,regardless of who's been in office.
With Husseincare, you will see marginal permanent job hire. Most will be around 32 hours per week so businesses won't have to get involved with Hussein care.
What about $85 B in monthly purchases by the fed do you not understand? I'm grateful as our 401-K and retirement plan looked anemic, but I also fully understand why the market is up 100%. It is not due to revenue or economic growth.