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Obama: Like Nixon but worse

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    I wonder if you agree with anything in the article other than the teasing headline.
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    Obama is a combination of Jimmy Carter (inept, naive, horrible advisors) and Nixon (paranoid). However I never had doubts that either Carter or Nixon wanted what was best for America. Obama...I have doubts daily. With each speech, appearance or executive order.
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    Actually wbgator I do agree with most of it.
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    To Carter and Nixon, you can apparently add Ulysses S. Grant, who was known to find out about scandals in his administration in the local media and then not do anything about them. Grant had his head stuck in a bottle. Obama is just too full of himself (and has zero experience doing actual work) to care about the scandals.

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...bama-scandals-hearken-back-to-ulysses-s-grant

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    Also from the US News piece:

    "Avoiding this kind of diminished legacy means that Obama must do what Grant could not. He needs to face the seriousness of the allegations which stretch across his administration and welcome in the investigators. Obama should be cleaning house, instead of hunkering down with controversial cabinet members and advisers (e.g., Eric Holder, Susan Rice and Samantha Power). In short, by not engaging to get his presidency back on track, Obama's ensuring that only one sentiment will prevail among the voters in the next election: change.

    Only this time, it'll be against him, not for him."

    Obama will not likely change advisors but will be more likely to "double down" with those who fail him now. IMHO- Obama will really be irrelevant over next 3 1/2 years (other than executive orders that will need to be reversed) as I don't know that anyone is listening or paying attention to him (including Michelle).
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    prezBO thinks he is entitled to ignore these allegations of impropriety and unlike the press with Nixon, prezBO knows the press of today his press will give him a pass
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    If any White House spent all its time battling drummed up allegations against it, they'd never have time for anything else.
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    Drummed up? REALLY?
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    And if A Hern didn't have the same problem he'd be getting ready for the upcoming season.
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    You mean like indulging in like a hundred golf outings and extravagent vacations in less than 5 years?
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    except his million dollar vacations
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    Sorry, son, good governance of the executive branch of government comes with the job. And that means setting limits for gov't employees and providing penalties for those who do not stay within those limits. The U.S. gov't is allowed to function partly because they will put a gun in the face of anyone who stands in its way, but also because they have worked hard for 235+ years to earn the trust of the American people. They have occasionally faltered along the way, but America's leaders were generally not allowed to turn a blind eye to it. After 2-3 more years of Obama, all the gov't will have left is the gun in your face option. That's not a good thing. It means that a gov't employee's ability to steal and profit from his job is only limited by his imagination, and ability to convince other gov't employees that he isn't stealing too much (because that is money that they could be stealing).

    The real issue is that Obama is as guilty as anyone else in gov't. He does not seem to understand basic ethics and integrity. Giving $500 million to Solyndra, when the CEO's wife worked down the hall from Obama, should have been seen as a clear conflict of interest. Bringing in the head of the IRS 157 times to discuss Tea Party tax exemptions before an election is clearly unethical. Why would Obama take action against criminals in gov't? He has no room to talk (although that doesn't seem to stop him from talking).
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    The focus of the original linked column was the NSA surveillance programs. Whether or not one agrees with the policy, the programs preceded the Obama administration and were consistent with both statutory and case law. Charles Krauthammer, not exactly a fan of Obama, put the programs in context in a June 13 column.

    . Washington Post
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    Nm
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    That's what Nixon said.

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