Obama lied. My health plan died.

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    According to our fellow libs the insurance rates were going up anyway so the ACA really is not that bad. Oh but I forgot that you have no choices anymore.
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    And he and slick Willy had the audacity to say that the rate increase of Healthcare is the slowest in 50 years or so. What a pile of $h!t that lie is.
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    I saw that nonsense too from Clinton.
    Nearly jumped through my TV screen trying to choke his scrawny little turkey neck.
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    I wish someone would.
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    That's actually true, but there are a lot of factors causing it.
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    The economy for $200 Alex.
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    That's fantasy, because we all know that's not what's happening in the real world. Every state other than one or two states say large increases. Not only that people lost coverage completely. Is that what you call slowing the increase of cost? We see right through Obama-in lyin's and slick Willie's lies.
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    http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=20308541&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
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    It was a kaiser foundation study they source. Hardly a left Wing organization. I just pulled the first article but there is A WSJ article that says pretty much the same thing.

    And people losing insurance is a different argument than whether rates have gone up . The fact is that whether it was the economy, more out of pocket expenses to offset what would have been increases, the ACA, people shopping around more for insurance in the new economy etc, the underlying claim is true, and really isn't even debated. The real debate is why. If you think he is taking credit in ACA for an economic problem he owns that's fine, but be honest about the debate.
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    Obama lied rates are going through the roof...
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    No savings from Medicare Part D.
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    I feel like its the 2012 election all over again, basic polling facts take a backseat to what people want them to be.
    The result will be the same, Obama will look like the sane one and the pubs will lose the argument, by carry on I guess.
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    Obama is stealing from medicare to help pay for Obama-scam.
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    It is true. I posted something similar here in TH a while back when I received the same confirmation from my insurance provider. The President and his minions promulgated a magnificent lie in saying if you liked what you have now you could keep it.
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    Our plan went up 18.7%. We compared to some other plans but if we switch we have to choose new docs that are part of their network. They are all named Abdul Abdul Abdul or Srini Srinivasa. No offense, because there are some outstanding Pakistani and Indian docs I'm sure, but I would prefer dealing with someone I can understand. I'm sure these cats are right out of some med school in Jalalabad and need patients and will see them for a few sheckles.

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