obama I make my own Law

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    if obama does not like the law to hell with it he will make up his own law


    "The increasing lawlessness with which President Barack Obama has been acting in his second term is not going unnoticed.

    In fact, in a strong rebuke last week to the unilateral actions being taken by the Obama administration, a federal appeals court came down hard on the administration’s Nuclear Regulatory Commission by ruling that delaying a decision on a proposed nuclear waste storage facility was in violation of federal law. In the majority opinion, the judges declared that the administration was “simply flouting the law,” and that President Obama “may not decline to follow a statute or prohibition simply because of policy objections.”

    President Obama’s fall from grace as the candidate elected to rein in executive power in 2008 is more than tragic – it sets scary new precedents for the behavior of future presidents from either party.

    Just take for example how President Obama has selectively enforced his own health care law:

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...re-presidents/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2d6Oy4558
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    same old spin from Fox. Hope you won't be disappointed from following more Faux facts and GOP math
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    Constitution?
    What constitution?
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    I see no one at the White House is even discussing getting statutory authority from the people's representatives prior to any attack on Syria. Before the President's apologists try to say after the fact that there was no time (like they did for Libya), I would like to point there is plenty of time now: Time enough to show the people the evidence, make an argument for war, and allow a full and open debate for up to 72 hours (pursuant to the War Powers Resolution). If the President again "goes around" the Congress when it comes to their Constitutional war powers, then he is indeed making his own law and acting as if he is the sole branch of this government.
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    Those who can do----she worked as a nurse for a while
    Those who can't---teach---she left active nursing to teach
    Those who can't do or teach become a GOP politician
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    oldgator - You once again trash the source rather than rebutting the facts presented. You would defend Obama if he dropped nuclear bombs on innocent Americans so your opinion is well - pretty biased.
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    Fox

    Emperor Cheney good
    Emperor Obama bad

    Got it.
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    I don't remember Obama campaigning as a candidate who would "rein in executive power". Anyone who seriously expected him to do that has got to be terribly disappointed.
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    Just wait til there's a Pub is the White House abusing the law, I can't wait till you opine with your "faux facts" incredulity.

    MAYBE THEN WILL YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THAT LAWS ARE REALLY BEING BROKEN BY THE POTUS?
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    I am not surprised that prezBO does this- I am surprised that the pubs sit on their hands and let him
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    Amen. To bring this subject of executive lawlessness back to the topic of Syria again, all I want in that regard is for Congress to say something to the effect of: "We are anticipating the President's request to use force so that we may view and weigh the evidence before granting authority to conduct hostilities." Something that checks this President and future Presidents from thinking they are the sole decider on when this republic goes to war.

    Their silence is interpreted as consent, regardless of the law.
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    Wow that misleadingly quotes the decision.

    First, the NRC is an independent agency of the federal government, not one that is subordinate to the executive branch or subject to executive branch control. With that in mind, here are the full quotes that article pulls out when they are taken in context:

    "the judges declared that the administration was 'simply flouting the law,'"

    That one is sort of there, you know, aside from the whole issue about the NRC being an independent agency and not part of the executive branch and the opinion making no reference to "the administration" when saying it.

    "that President Obama may not decline to follow a statute or prohibition simply because of policy objections.'"

    That's part of the legal analysis, it's not saying that the President is doing that. It's the intro to the legal standard applicable to independent agencies, saying that just as executive branch agencies have to follow the law, independent agencies do as well:

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    This actually is an interesting issue though. Essentially the NRC isn't moving forward on processing the application because they are asserting that Congress has been trying to work out a deal on Yucca Mountain and doesn't want them to.

    The basis for their argument is that Congress hasn't appropriated the funds necessary to get close to completing the review and hasn't appropriated any funds to the review process for a number of years, so they argue the Congress doesn't actually want them to do it. (When Congress was moving forward on Yucca Mountain activites last they provided the NRC a $99 million annual budget for the review).

    As a result, the NRC has about $11 million still in an account that was provided for the review, and everyone agrees that amount would be grossly inadequate to complete the review. This essentially says that the NRC needs to go ahead and spend that $11 million, even though it will not come close to concluding the project, because they have some funds left and could at least spend that money and move forward a little bit and Congress hasn't passed a law telling them not to which would change the initial law from back when they were being funded.
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    Is any part of the post not true? Please point out anything not true
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    He's America's Putin.

    Goodbye liberty.

    :embarrased:
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    See my post about the quotes.

    The part of the post actually taken from the article is either not true or so out of the context of the opinion as to be near meaningless.

    The line that "In the majority opinion, the judges declared that the administration was “simply flouting the law,”" is not really true (an independent federal agency that is not under any political appointee isn't "the administration," and in the majority opinion it says the NRC is flouting the law), and the lead sentence is not true for the same reason. Of course that acknowledgment would require some level of nuance or understanding of what the NRC even is, which I fully understand we should not expect in flamethrower op-eds.
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    We don't have to. See 2001-8.
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    Name one law Bush illegally changed (though his agencies or on his own) or totally ignored? Obama has done this dozens of times.
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    Hatch Act
    Aides ignored congressional subpoenas
    NSA program

    The list is endless.
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    Please explain...the NSA usage by Hussein is up over 1,000% since BUSH left. The others as well more detail please.

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