NSA admits to listening to phone calls w/o a warrant

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    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/

    from the article:

    The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.
    Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."
    If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee.
    Not only does this disclosure shed more light on how the NSA's formidable eavesdropping apparatus works domestically, it also suggests the Justice Department has secretly interpreted federal surveillance law to permit thousands of low-ranking analysts to eavesdrop on phone calls.
    Because the same legal standards that apply to phone calls also apply to e-mail messages, text messages, and instant messages, Nadler's disclosure indicates the NSA analysts could also access the contents of Internet communications without going before a court and seeking approval. :no::no:
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    Ruh Roh....
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    Big time "Ruh Roh" for the POTUS. His reign of tyranny needs to come to an unceremonious end.
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    We told you so...
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    "Yes they can" act, and be commies... enslaving us all.
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    This is bigger than Obama and even Bush. Something needs to be done...
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    Biggest threat to our freedom -ever. People need to go to jail.

    The obamabots will go about their lives, happy as long the "free" goodies keep coming.
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    I agree but it won't stop people from making it about D or R.
    It's about the laws we have passed that allow this (this provision was passed in 2008 and renewed in 2012), the willingness of the people to give up their privacy, but mostly it's about a larger and larger secret security apparatus that becomes its own power base, instead of one who is carrying out policy they create it. And the last thing we need is a security force with poltical power.
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    D & R- two heads of the same snake. Good in both parties but too few with little power. Big Brother is here and will keep you safe if it kills you for them to do so. Big daddy government is looking out for your best interest. No-really.
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    Just look how well it worked in Boston, even with 2 alerts from the KGB...
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    Not to drag gun rights into this but geesh. I am beginning to fear our government.
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    Spot on.
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    Don't Blame Me... I Voted For Romney

    McCcain, too.
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    Was this post sarcastic? Because McCain probably would of been listening to those calls personally. McCain loves him some Patriot Act.
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    But they said they were only gathering phone numbers and would not listen to conversations. Do you suppose they would lie to us common folk?
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    It was passed on 08 when W was Pres.

    Now can we blame you?
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    McCain's a maverick, the media's token Pub until 2008. He enjoys having it both ways like 99% of liberals.
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    Obama has been president for 4 1/2 years. It being passed on is no longer an excuse. The buck is supposed to stop with him.
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    FYI. Note the date and the name of the Attorney General
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