North Carolina governor signs voter ID law

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  1. ncbullgator
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    Like when the comic Franken was able to come up with ballots out of a cat trunk to mysteriously win the Minnesota Senate seat and act as 60th vote to approve Obama's health care fiasco?
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    I am not a minority, but if I were, I would be insulted that someone would insinuate that I could not conform to the same rules of voting. that everyone else does. Those that say, a minority can't conform to the same rules that everyone else does, are the racists.
    Any reason that is given for a black and hispanic not being able to get proper id, there are probably more than twice that number of whites falling in the same category.
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    You bring up a very interesting point.
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    Exactly! Most of what liberals do with regard to minorities is patronizing, condescending and, therefore, racist.
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    If 2012 is a guideline expect Republicans to pay for this in 2014 and elections beyond. It probably cost them Florida in 2012. Nothing like trying to keep people from voting to motivate and make them lifelong enemies of your party. Bad policy and bad politics.
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    So because trying to curb fraudulent ballots unpopular, allow fraud to go unchecked?
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    They're not really trying to curb fraud. It's just a transparent excuse.
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    It's an insignificant problem in which the cure will negatively affect voters more than the cause. NC had 124 fraud complaints in the last election. Nationally the same levels have been found. The new law will effectively cause tens of thousands to not vote - unless they get mad enough as they did in 2012.
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    Are you saying minorities are incapable of following rules like eveyrone else?
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    Poor people, young people, and very old people are less likely to have a photo ID already, or a car to go get one. You and all your middle and upper class white buddies and state representatives undoubtedly have both, so no sweat off your a.s. If there was any you'd be bitching about big government.

    Imagine the law said polls could only be open on Sunday afternoons when golf tournaments were on or weekdays when Bill O'Reilly was on and that you had to come to the polls on public transportation.
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    it is funny, Republicans create new rules for the simple reason of targeting certain groups and then act as though its the Democrats fault for pointing it out.
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    Yet poor people, young people, and very old people are, I'm pretty sure, statistically more likely to purchase one or more of countless items that require photo identification, so the real population you have to account for are poor and young or very old people who also have no vices and never need cold medicine or any substance that either private or public actors require ID to sell, and can't effectively manage the cost of a photo ID through actual honest-to-goodness decision making.

    So, like, 100 people per state or something?

    But, hell, it could be 100,000, it would probably still be cheaper for the ACLU or various ACORN zombie forms or the DNC to just give them cash money to purchase the required ID than any or all of them have spent agitating and litigating over ID laws. So their motives would seem to be some other reason that they can't be having voters have to verify their identity at the polling place.
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    No statistically significant problem yet the supposed Libertarians are all out celebrating more government regulations, even ones with counterproductive effect.

    Fools or enemies of democracy - no other explanation possible.
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    That's the biggest load of B.S.! Poor people can get 0bamaphones but not a photo ID? Young people can't get a photoID? How many young people who "can't" get a photo ID have tattoos? Demos go out with their vans to herd people into polling stations -- why can't they drive people to drivers license offices for an official state issued photo ID. It's either a big pile of B.S. or it's misplaced priorities. In either case, people should take some personal responsibility if they want to vote.
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    college kids have an ID. why do they need a different one?
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    Dude, there's no problem which this bill addresses and it is clearly meant to punish certain demographic groups who don't vote Republican. Your post illustrates this motivation perfectly. Guess what? Don't expect any black votes for another generation or two and hopefully they'll be pi..ed enough to turn out like they did 2012. You're making your bed. Try to sleep in it.
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    How did they manage to get a college ID? If they're so unable to do anything for themselves, it seems odd they could get a college ID. If the options are getting a job or going to college, it's amazing how they were able to navigate the application process to get into college.
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    If this bill were really about voter fraud, why doesn't it address absentee voting, where most of the fraud occurs? instead, it cuts back early voting and same-day registration. Anyone want to guess the racial breakdown of those?

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    I'm not saying they couldn't get a new ID. Why should they have to? They have one.
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    College photo IDs, even those issued by public universities, have a liberal bias.

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