No matter your opinion on Holder ...

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    Looks like progress and freedom are winning on this issue (for now):

    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...announces-major-shift-law-enforcement-policy/

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    Not winning? Separation of powers and professional responsibility, since Holder is basically playing fast and loose with the idea of prosecutorial discretion and candor with the tribunal (I mean, they'll be having to carefully repackage, if you will, the facts in some federal prosecutions so that they don't trigger mandatory sentence bearing charges) for the sole purpose of avoiding compliance with duly enacted legislation.

    The laws these guys will fight to oppose or fight to ignore will tell you a lot about what's important to them. Making sure the person voting a ballot is the person to whom it belongs? Minimizing the amount of babies killed in utero? Unchaining people from failing schools for the inferior objective of diversity? Preserving the de facto modern day slave trade enabled by unchecked illegal immigration? All these things are causes Holder will go to the mat for. But he also wants you to know that you wouldn't feel so alone; everybody must get stoned.
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    Thanks, Debbie Downer. :awkward:
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    I agree with Michi's position re: some of the other situations (e.g. repackaging the facts), but in this case I don't have a problem with the decision not to sue the states. So good for Holder.
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    Just change the federal law. While I applaud some sanity in prosecution of drugs, prosecurial discretion on which laws will be enforced and which will not is a troubling practice
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    The decision not to sue is within their discretion but still absurdly selective and misprioritized considering the suits they have filed. Him basically telling his prosecutors to fudge around their charging instruments to nullify statute, as a matter of DOJ policy is just not acceptable to me.
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    IMO this decision is a good one, standing on its own, whether or not other decisions have been bad.

    Agreed.
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    The argument for that kind of prosecutorial discretion is that, since the exceutive has pardon and commutation powers that could nullify or shorten any conviction or sentence that could result, making them impose a sentence or seek a conviction that they don't want and could just subsequently undo anyways is pointless, and they have the power not to engage in all those meaningless steps.
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    Okay...

    He (Holder) is a disgrace to the office he holds.
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    So once again the regime is going against the will of the people. Why am I not surprised.
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    Holy run on sentence batman!
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    Hey, that's sub-70 words. If it wouldn't be a terribly long paragraph, it's not too long to be a single sentence. :laugh:
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    It's ok, Colorado was Washington will run into new issues stemming from legalizing.
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    No kidding :dead:
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    I am not a pot smoker but am also allergic to most pain medications and as bad as my recovery from my shoulder surgery has been-I would consider medicinal mary jane
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    lots and lots of tax revenue and a increase in fast food jobs with less people in jail????
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    Does he still hold Zimmerman's gun?
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    You think it's the will of the people to federally pursue medical marijuana distributors in states where marijuana is legal?

    You sure about that?
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    Change the law. That is the way our system of government was set up. If the law is not changed, then the next person sitting in that chair might make a different decision.

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