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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Feb 8, 2014.
Sorry my brother. My nails are married to my Alaskan pocket knife.
After all, look at Too Hot threads started by conservatives:
NAACP requires ID for march. FALSE.
Obama playing with job figures. FALSE.
Biden says something racist. BUT NO ONE WOULD SAY HOW IT WAS RACIST.
CBO says ACA takes away jobs. FALSE.
But you want to claim it's the Democrats who depend on uninformed voters?
I'm trying to rationalize something that Republicans are doing? I'm not even talking about Republicans - I've spent 90% of this thread talking about Democrats.
You're not really working on all cylinders are you.
There's one or two posters who make a lot of threads that are notoriously from biased conservative sources and everyone knows it, but yet, you're still stereotyping us all as basically the same guy? You just can't help your subjectivity and team-mentality can you?
I'm not talking about bias, I'm talking about falsehoods. And remember, you're the one who is claiming that it's the Democrats who depend on uninformed voters. I said they're on both sides of the aisle.
A couple of paragraphs down...
Sounds like your beef is with the FL legislature, and not the governor...
River. Aren't you doing EXACTLY the very same thing that you criticized conservatives for doing in MOC's thread?
No... I take it back...
THIS is the pigeon dancing on the chess table.
I've always wondered why you think that just because YOU claim something is false, then it should just be considered so...
Let's start with the first one, Dave. NAACP requires ID for March: True or false?
Where did I say that Democrats depend on uninformed voters? Where do you get this? I said Democrats exploit them shamelessly more than Republicans did. I said they're both sides of the aisle too - multiple times actually.
You do realize instead of (1) site now it looks like there will be two? From the article, you posted.......
"With the UF student union now off limits, the city plans to use two early voting sites for the March 11 election, assistant city attorney Nicolle Shalley said. One is about 1.5 miles away and the other about three miles away"
I would think 2 sites would increase the ability to vote, more options, less wait time.
ready to give it a shot, Dave?
Pub majority votes to eliminate 1/3 of Manatee County's voting sites.....of course it's in predominately minority neighborhoods.
On a party-line vote, a Florida county’s Republican majority Board of County Commissioners voted Tuesday to eliminate almost one-third of Manatee County’s voting sites. The board accepted a proposal by Supervisor of Elections Mike Bennett (R) by a 6-1 vote to trim the number of precincts, despite unanimous public testimony against the move — and complaints by the lone Democratic Commissioner that it would eliminate half of the polling places in his heavily minority District 2.
Bennett, in his first term as elections supervisor, proposed reducing the number of Manatee County precincts from 99 to 69. Citing decreased Election Day turnout, as more voters switch to in-person early voting and vote-by-mail options, he told the commissioners that the move would save money and allow the county to offer more early voting sites in the future.
In the public comment section of the meeting, all ten speeches strongly opposed the move. Representatives of the local NAACP and Southern Christian Leadership Council warned that the cuts would decrease voter turnout because voters would have to travel further to a polling place, especially among the elderly and people without cars, and noted that the cuts disproportionately affected minority-heavy precincts.
Can it be any more clear this is voter suppression by Pubs:
Bennett assured the commission that if lines are longer in 2014 as a result of these changes, he would ask them to revisit the decision in 2015, before the 2016 elections. But it is unclear whether voter accessibility is a sincere priority for him. In 2011, while serving in the Florida Senate, he endorsed making it hard to vote: “I wouldn’t have any problem making it harder. I would want them to vote as badly as I want to vote. I want the people of the state of Florida to want to vote as bad as that person in Africa who’s willing to walk 200 miles…This should not be easy.” He made that comment as he supported a voter suppression bill that reduced the number of days for early voting in Florida and helped create long lines across the state.
The democrats around here bus them in starting on the first day of early voting and give them a sample ballot of who the bus driver (really a 15 passenger van paid for by the politician) wants you to vote for (the politician paying for the van.)
I asked the question of the politician doing this "does anyone get to ride the van? He said no, only the ones who are going to vote for me. They know who the riders are going to vote for and give them a sample ballot on how to complete the real ballot.
On a national scale, Republicans don't even get a call to ride the bus. This isn't a get out the vote effort. It is a get out the democrats effort.
Even if that is true, does that excuse using the government, changing the rules to help your party?
Were not the rules ALREADY changed to help democrats get out their democrat voters?
And it most certainly is true. A 2013 local election here for an entire town was thrown and ordered a redo because of crap like this happening.
What rules have the Democrats changed to make it more difficult for Republicans to vote?
Did I make that assertion? No, I didn't. Try again strawman.
We agree, they haven't done that.
So, if the Republicans are closing polls primarily in minority districts because blacks tend to vote Democratic, are you OK with that?
The rules were changed to help one party, democrats, something you carefully avoided to address.
I don't think any polls should be closed. I never stated that. Strawman again.