NJ property taxes up 13% over 3 years under Christie

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  1. JerseyGator01
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    So I guess I wasn't the only one in Jersey who had his property taxes go up by more than 4% under Christie's first year even though the state mandated a 4% cap with exceptions of course. I guess this is what a fsical conservative looks like these days.

    Other than the abortion issue, Dem vs Pub = Coke vs Pepsi

    From the link:

    http://www.my9nj.com/Story/23501639/ap-property-tax-burden-up-13-pct-under-christie

    An analysis by The Associated Press has found the net household property tax burden rose 13% in Gov. Chris Christie's first three years in office.

    That figure reflects both Christie's success in reining in local government spending and his inability to deliver on a 2009 campaign promise to restore a property tax relief program.

    New Jersey continues to have the highest property tax bills in the nation.

    During his 2009 campaign, Christie promised both to slow the growth of the taxes and to bring back a rebate program.
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    I told everyone here that he was just another old school RINO. This is proof.
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    Christie is the closest you will find to a conservative in NJ. Not very close.
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    Yep. The people of that state are mostly liberal.
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    Actually, it's a fairly moderate state with fringe left leadership controlled by the teachers union and friends.
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    Rhino alert. If Hillary chose him for VP he would accept.
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    Aren't property taxes dictated at the county level?
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    Yes they are, but one of Christie's first big pledges was to find a wind to bring them down. I haven't heard him talk about it since Sandy.
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    Christie looks like he finds a wind easily. :grin:
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    I don't know that we can lay the property tax rise at his feet, but he's no conservative. He has aspirations of national political office, it appears, but he won't make it as a repub.
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    If it's like here in NY it's a mix. The state dictates certain percentages of sales/property/whatever taxes, then the counties/cities/towns/municipality/school districts/whoever else wants any money come in and raise/set the rest.

    Breakdown over here from what one person showed me a few years back was that the property tax here has a state component, then he had an Erie County tax, then the Town of Amherst, then the Village of Williamsville, then the Williamsville School district, then the garbage/water crap. I believe our average one right now is around $24 per 1000. Which is one reason why we rent :yes:
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    Well, rate is one thing, then valuation is another. We have property taxes revalued every 8 years here which results in a significant jump every 8 years even though the rate per $100 may stay the same or actually decrease.
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    He is a RINO big time.
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    I do not miss the taxes in NJ. Not one bit.
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    considering how red states stabbed NJ in the back by delaying fed relief following Hurricane Sandy....It is very reasonable for taxes to go up to rebuild the devastated areas.

    Just hope the next time massive storm damage hits a red state that the lib states of the Northeast tell the red state to solve it on their own and not grub off other states.

    Over the years, the liberal states have always been supportive(as in the lib states giving financial support via fed govt to any state devastated by natural disaster). In other words, the govt of lib states doing the Christian thing of charity for a neighbor in need. Sad that Red state govts aren't as Christian in action as they are in words
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    OR, if you're in Buffalo and other rust belt places, the hikes are a way to offset the population decreases/job losses, which of course end up driving more folks away, and thus continues another vicious cycle. We're not exactly in hurricane country in these parts :)
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    What is a "net household property tax burden"? The esteemed AP analyst (accountant/reporter/summer intern/??) does not provide the math. Moreover, how does his success in "reining" in local spending increase or contribute to the "net household property tax burden? Are they talking about a net increase in property tax revenue? That could be, but not sure from the article. Of course, an increase in revenue could be function of increase in property values.

    Finally, I agree that Christie is not a conservative. However, even if he was, he would still have to deal with a Dem controlled legislature that has no interest in decreasing, or even slowing an increase, taxes.
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    Not a Christie fan but in his defense what did you expect property taxes to do over a 3 year period when the first year is 2010 and the housing market and general economy crashed in 08/09? When housing prices/values are up so are property taxes, unless there's a mileage change which isn't going to happen with state and local governments left so impaired from the crash.
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    Property taxes are based on assessments from 2010. Housing prices since have little to do with it. It's mostly rate increases.
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    Yep, my taxes went way up this year in Florida because I missed getting homestead last year by 1 day and therefore didn't have the rate increase cap.

    Also, throw in a Sandy with the rising house prices and there you go.

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