Nikki Haley Takes Heat After Report Blows Up ‘Bogus’ Voter Fraud Claims In SC

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/09/nikki-haley-voter-fraud_n_3566194.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

    Nikki Haley Takes Heat After Report Blows Up ‘Bogus’ Voter Fraud Claims In South Carolina


    The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing

    Posted: 07/09/2013 9:44 am EDT | Updated: 07/09/2013 4:34 pm EDT

    For years, South Carolina Republicans have complained about the names of dead voters being used to cast ballots in a broad voter fraud scheme. Now that a recent report by the State Law Enforcement Division has blown up those claims, unable to find a single example of a “zombie voter” committing fraud, one Democrat is demanding that Gov. Nikki Haley (R) apologize for her party’s “bogus” crusade.

    In a statement released Monday, House Democratic Leader Todd Rutherford accused Haley and other Republicans of deliberately and deceptively pushing false claims for political gain.

    “Now we have the proof that shows that the accusations of voter fraud were completely without merit,” said Rutherford. “And once again, South Carolina’s taxpayers have to foot the bill for the millions of dollars unnecessarily spent as a result of Governor Haley and her colleagues’ incompetence and blind-ideology.”

    Rutherford went on to call for Haley and Republicans to “acknowledge that they were being dishonest about voter fraud” and to “apologize to the public.”

    For months, state Republicans highlighted a report from DMV director and Haley appointee Kevin Shwedo that claimed a review of state records had determined around 950 dead people might have voted in the 2010 election. While Shwedo admitted that reporting errors could have led to the discrepancy, the GOP suggested that the identities had been assumed to commit voter fraud, a possibility that was used to bolster controversial voter ID legislation in the state.

    After SLED’s report, it turns out that non-malicious errors were ultimately to blame for the DMV numbers. In a statement released in response to Rutherford’s attack, however, Haley spokesperson Rob Godfrey said that voter ID was still important, despite the failure of Republican voter fraud complaints to pan out.

    “No matter what kind of distractions, rhetoric, or lawsuits have come from opponents of voter ID, the truth is it has always been about one thing and one thing only — securing the electoral process,” he said, according to WIS-TV. “It’s a shame to see Democrats like Todd Rutherford continue to oppose simple measures like showing a picture ID to vote, measures that make sure those who are eligible to vote do vote, and those who aren’t don’t
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    996, you must have way too much time on your hands. I'd go out and beat the pavement and see if you can't get you an "Obama" job. It would be part time and come with no benefits but it would beat the hell out of reading Huffington Post all day!
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    Meanwhile, when the claims of dead voters voting in SC were first made by a Republican official, our resident conservatives jumped all over it, posted it over and over. Assured it was true. Why we need voter ID, etc. etc.

    Now that it's clearly false, your complaint is that somebody posted a thread about it being false?
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    River, the dead voter issue has been beaten to death. Do you suppose those living in Chicago would agree that "dead voters" don't vote.

    In Jacksonville, we have had tons of voter fraud issues that never make the news. Most involve blacks being bussed, enticed, bribed and it ain't Pubs doing the cheating. Of course other than the Bush-Gore election of 2000, most fraudulent attempts have not made a difference. I remind you, it was not the "hanging chads" of south florida that cost Gore the election. It was the 2500 over votes in Duval county that cost Gore the election. Blacks from 4 precincts were bussed to the polls and given written instructions to vote for Gore and Brown (Corrine). Fortunately there was a Browne running for President and these ignorant voters punched Gore and Harry Browne for president nullifying their vote. A friend of mine worked as an Election official and gave me the details. Clear attempt to cheat that backfired.

    This little incident got zero national press. I wonder why not?
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    we are supposed to take a "report" as Gospel-especially a report from a dem

    regardless as to whether or not this report is accurate or not-I still firmly support voter ID-we have been required to show a photo ID in the State of Florida for quite some time and it has had ZERO ill affects and fail to understand the lefts gripe
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    The report is not from a dem; obviously you didn't read the article. It links to a local paper that states the report was done by the state election's office, and the state is controlled by republicans.
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    Maybe because it didn't happen that way?

    link

    but you are right, the fact that the dead voter claims in South Carolina turn out to be completely bogus has been pointed out here before.
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    You actually don't really have to show an ID to vote in Florida. You're asked to, and if you can't you vote a provisional ballot that has the signature verified against your registration before being counted.
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    true Ben-but since it is known that you are going to be asked most people have 1 and again why is it that libs have such a problem with it? hell, if it were reversed, I would just say give it to them and then it is one less argument they can make when they lose
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    People who vote without IDs:

    The poor
    Minorities
    The elderly
    College students
    Combinations of these

    Anything the GOP can do to bar these groups from voting they will do legally or illegally.
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    very very low %'s shab and you know it-if people are given fair warnig and fair time all can be accomplished-and I can tell you after enrolling my youngest daughter in to UF last week-nothing is done there without an ID, NOTHING-so you student claim is bullchit
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    I was told by someone on the election commission that it was 2500 votes in the overcount with both Gore and Browne. And that was the day after, way before any rulings by Florida or US Supreme Court and way before any recounts. It was a case of "attempted voter fraud" or cheating. They even had one of the handouts the voters were given on the bus.

    Why do you suppose Democrats fight to the end on every state requiring ID? It is the classic "reserve the right to cheat". Why don't pubs fight it in blue states? Why are pubs always fighting to preserve the Constitution and Amendments?

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
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    Everyone of them should already have an ID. Please stop using this excuse that is beyond ignorant.
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    Fred, quit lying. College students all have several IDs with pics. The elderly all have picture IDs, Medicare cards, Medicaid cards for some.

    The poor and minorities is the only legitimate claim in your post. And every state has provisions for helping those get their IDs. I think if we are going to provide free food, housing, health care and phones, that if they want to vote, they can drag their ass down and have an ID made when they are applying for another program. Or we will come pick them up. If the demos can arrange rides for their voters, they can surely arrange rides for IDs for their voters. No sympathy for your argument because it is Bull$hit.
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    Cool. You've taken a thread about Republicans once again making false claims about voter fraud and turn it into yet another fact-less claim about voter fraud. well done.
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    again river I fail to understand what you are afraid of
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    With college students, the push is to invalidate the IDs they have.

    Want to change ID rules? Don't do it in an election year. Those are nothing more than naked attempts to sow last minute confusion.
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    Voter fraud is there river. In every inner city precinct in the country...it is there. you know it, I know it and election officials know it. Just trying to tighten it up and who screams....democrats? Why?

    RESERVE THE ABILITY TO CHEAT

    You guys are so transparent. We are protecting the disenfranchised, the poor, college students. Horse$hit. Horse$hit. Horse$hit.
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    what a total kroc- it would not matter when it was done you would be whining

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