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  1. InstiGATOR1
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    We always recruit very heavily in-state and prefer those kids over out of state kids, all else equal, since Billy develops relationships with them very early and can stay close with them and their coaches/family. Billy has successfully recruited almost every Florida Mr. Basketball since he's been here. Many of the OOS kids Billy recruits are a result of AAU relationships (clean relationships - some of whom are members on this board, unbeknownst to many of the posters here :) ) Here in Florida, Billy has landed several kids from Monteverde ever since Kevin Boyle took the job (including Dickerson most recently). It's worth noting that Billy helped Boyle get that job, and he's the top HS coach in America (previously coached Kyrie Irving and MKG, among others, before getting to Monteverde and coaching Frazier, Hill, etc)

    There are a couple young in-state stars Billy is recruiting right now that most OOS coaches have never heard of. Brion Whitley and Blake Morrow out of Sarasota are two such examples (top freshman and soph in the state, out of Sarasota), as was Juwan Durham back when he was a freshman. Interestingly, Teddy trains all of them.
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    So you are saying there's a chance lol..

    FYI I already knew about Whitley and Morrow...haha but you knew that my bro

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    Oh yeah? Well, I've heard that Billy is recruiting at least one player who only exists in a parallel universe Florida where spiders run the legislature and oceans are orange.
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    Sounds like an improvement.
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    I think people underestimate the basketball talent Florida. We're the third most populous state and, like California and Texas football is number 1, but there a lot of kids playing well in other sports. How many Florida kids get drafted by MLB, and how well do Florida schools do in NCAA baseball. There's always going to be some ungodly basketball talent in some outlier state, but if we keep the top Florida players at UF, we're good
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    That kid has a whole year of high school left. Wow.
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    Ball State
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    Early in his career, Billy could go out and pull in McD AAs with the best of them. But, if he tried to do that today, he'd never keep up with the blue bloods and the programs that bend the rules. He would never maintain pace with Kentucky grabbing 1-2 McD AAs to their 4-5.

    So, he has changed direction and brings in high character guys from the next tier. These are kids who will work hard for 4 years and execute our system. In doing so, Donovan is keeping up with everyone else, including UK. It's very impressive.
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    And he would be miserable doing it even if he tried. Look at Sean Miller. The poor guy is packing on the pounds, is a nervous wreck every game, and is under this unbelievable pressure just to make a Final Four. That's not what Donovan wants to be. He has complete control of his program, he has molded it (from the staff to the offices to the roster) into exactly what he wants, he has enough job security that a bad year or two won't kill him, and as a result he as a level of continuity in the program that is unmatched outside of Durham, Syracuse, and East Lansing.
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    Uh, yeah. That's my problem too. The pressures of high-level recruiting.
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    The only problem I can see is if the minimum time in college changes to two years. Then we lose some of our built in advantages with the three and four year players
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    if that happens, I think it may end up hurting the kentuckys just as much when those true and one dones look overseas
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    +1 on Sean Miller...dude looks on the verge of a heart attack every time I watch him coach...sweating profusely and out of shape...
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    I like how he uses the rim as a shield. Very underrated move.
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    I think that Sean Miller is a fabulous coach that has had some bad luck getting to the Final Four. He has had some really good teams.
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    Billy has the right blend of EEs like Beal (and likely C Walker) and 3-4 year guys. He knows what works
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    Very interesting observations, Osiris, Bullis, rserina, Gotham, etc.

    What impressed me right off about Billy Donovan was his ability to recruit top Florida talent, like Mr Basketball Brent Wright and Major Parker right off the bat. Prior to him, even Norm Sloan (an excellent recruiter) and certainly Lon Kruger, could only snag Mr Basketball occasionally.

    Being a person who well understands what it is to be human (rather than a reptile or arachnid legislator from a parallel universe), he establishes and maintains relationships with other humans, and really emphasizes this with his team (some evidence of this is his son playing deep with him, rather than being a starter elsewhere).

    Gotham, I really don't think it is his inherent inability to break the rules and buy recruits that deters the Head Ball Coach from recruiting a lot of Mickey D players. I really think when he lost Miller, Harvey and then Kwame Brown to the NBA very early, given that establishing relationships is so important to him, he decided to move back to kids in the top 40-100 ranking area generally, in order to have them stay around for a while. Note that this theory conflicts with recruiting so many transfers recently, so it may well not be very accurate.
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    I think some of the success we've had with transfers is that guys get to where they are going and realize that their coach lied to them (about whatever) and that guy Donovan was straight up with them when he was recruiting them. They then leave and come to UF.
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    I think the number of transfers reinforce the desire Donovan has for players to stick around because it's either stay at UF, go pro (which probably isn't an immediate option for transfers or they would've at least gone overseas already) or transfer a second time (probably to division II to avoid losing a year.) So, stay at UF looks like the best play among dwindling options.

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