"New Air Force cargo planes fly straight into mothballs"

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  1. philnotfil

    philnotfil Well-Known Member

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    The amount of wast in our defense spending is mind-boggling.

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    Let's build some more.
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    Children, can you say: "Corporate welfare?"
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    Why are the Italians building planes for us that we wont use?
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    I do think we waste way too much money in our defense budget-it is reee dik uh luss to build and pay for planes that we will not use- of course since it is an Italian Company building them it makes me wonder if this is being done under some type of foreign aide
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    Bill, you can be sure of one thing. Somewhere there are people with larger bank accounts because of it and you probably wouldn't have to look any further than our elected officials to pinpoint some of it.
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    Bill it says right in the the OP it was two OH senators trying to keep 800 local jobs
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    $567 million for 800 jobs..$708,750 per job...sounds like a stimulus project to me

    just think, we could have paid each of those 800 people $100k per year for 7 years to sit home and not have needed to pay for storage and transport for these. no worries, I am sure that some friend of 0 will buy these real cheap and then lease them back to the gubmnt for some other use.
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    all that matters is the connected defense contractors and lobbyists made millions from the deal---it's only money.
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    That is funny... how quickly the Dems here forget about all of their waste like the $1,000,000,000,000.00 dollars Obama wasted on zero planes and zero permanent private sector jobs.
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    I'll agree with that statement. Repubs or demos, the party in control is making $$$'s big time at the taxpayer's (suckers) expense. If I was only a Senator, I'd be set for life x 10.
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    I wish all of us, Pubs and Dems, could rally together on behalf of one cause…reducing our military spending to a level that funds only necessary and mission critical armaments, staff and military benefits.

    There's no reason why the Pentagon needs ~$800B a year to get the job done. No reason whatsoever, especially when we only needed ~$350B barely a decade ago.

    I believe in our military, believe in the cause they're fighting for, and believe that most are in the military for the right reasons. And I also broadly believe in the military's leadership. But I don't agree with pork barrel politics, the military industrial complex and a Pentagon that has way too many Generals, Colonels, Lt. Colonels and Administrative Assistants. Not to mention an "army" of consultants running around telling us why we need four versions of the same plane before they jump in their Range Rovers for the commute home to affluent Tysons Corner, VA or Chevy Chase, MD.

    And I also don't believe in the hero complex the military and our politicians shove down our throats. Very few in the military are actual heroes, or will ever be one. Just drop that nonsense and save it for the folks who are.

    We could all rally around reducing a bloated defense budget if we put our mind to it.
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    Ivy league schools get a lot of money for military research payed by the military budget. And there is other agencies that hire brilliant minds that cost real money to fund.. The sequestration is enough of a cut for the military... for now.
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    Rick, your post is a prime example of why people don't take many who call themselves conservatives seriously. The military needs to be cut period. The budget is way too big.
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    They just cut $400,000,000,000.00 from their budget, Hall. Do they need more cuts? Tell Obama to get us out of Afghanistan... then it's no problem, and do-able.
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    Show me where they cut 400 billion from the annual budget.
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    $600B in cuts over 10 years isn't really a cut at all. It's a cut in the GROWTH of spending for the most part.

    The Pentagon's budget has grown 6-7% per year since the early 2000's, which is simply unsustainable and unneccessary. Especially given the Great Recession. The military hasn't been asked to cut back, or rationalize weapons systems with any real sincerity. Nor have they done anything to properly manage benefit costs for current or retired members.

    Way, way too many people at the top in the Pentagon as well. Which is what usually happens when an organization (much like a Union) doesn't have good leadership or governance.
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    No one wants their oxe gored and will work tirelessly to exempt themselves until all our geese are cooked.
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    defense dept.---filled with waste, fraud, corruption, in the pocket of lobbyists and members of congress looking for big money deals

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