naacp does not like conservative blacks

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    Tell me, why would anyone vote for a party whose base/officials, constantly points the finger at them, treats them as parasites, denies the structural and institutional inequality they face, and is looking to gut all programs that help lower income folks?

    I mean, it's pretty easy to see why, but I guess there's still some room for debate with y'all.

    You are the reason. If you care, change your tactics, if not, shut up about it.
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    see to me this is part of the problem-instead of lifting blacks up and helping them become self sufficient the dems want to keep them on the farm and then have the unmitigated gall to tell them it is the pubs who are doing this-and they are not smart enough to figure it out-the ones who do are vilified and called Uncle Toms

    you buy right into the dem rhetoric 108-tells me you are part of the problem
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    yes, who wouldn't rush over to the party that continually tells them they're too lazy to work and too stupid to know what's good for them?
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    vs the party who develops that mind set
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    And back to the ole narative.

    Perhaps you and river could provide some specific examples of (R) using this kind of rhetoric. That is, direct quotes from prominent, elected (R) leaders, congressmen, senators, presidents pointing the finger at blacks. The existance and scale of structural and institutional inequality is up for debate and utterly subjective in nature, which is probably why you use it (Kinda like religion: All talk with no supporting facts, which is great for creating false narratives). I also find it interesting that you tie support of black causes/racism directly to increased and/or decreased welfare payments. More of the convenient false narrative.

    River,

    I freaking dare you to come up with specific examples of the language you claim (R)s use toward blacks.


    Lastly, what both of you conveniently ignore is the simple fact that blacks would have more political power, and perhaps greater gains, if they played it from both sides, if their votes were "getable" and both parties chased them rather (in your case) taking them for granted or (in their case) dismissing their concerns altogether. I could make similar points about Christian Conservatives, which are a similarly "kept" audience.

    But let's not concern ourselves with the danger and non-productive (unless you are a political fundraiser) nature of these kinds of narratives because, you know, it's politically convenient.
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    Ahh I see you're starting to believe the stuff you and your media brethren write.
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    So, you claim that blacks continue to vote for Democrats even though they're not getting much out of it. And that blacks would have more political power if they weren't so completely on one side of the aisle ... in other words, they don't really know what's good for them, but you do. And you ask for evidence that anyone's saying that?
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    You provide examples before you get anything out of me. Quotes, from elected and/or prominent (R) leaders using this language:
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    If I'm accusing the NAACP of anything it's being greedy and opportunistic and of being far more concerned about their own specific political viability/profitability than those they claim to serve (CP).
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    case in point, you think a whole race of people are too dumb to think for themselves, because they don't vote for your party of choice......your pov doesn't go unnoticed by black folks
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    Ah, such a good little (D) soldat!
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    Elected officials don't have to come out and say it, their actions speak for themselves.

    They, and their base, are against just about everything that goes to help poor folks, in which, black folks belong to at a disproportionate percentage, per capita. While doing that, they actively push for corporate/farm breaks and subsidies that help higher income folks who are disproportionately white.

    If you need evidence of the base using this kind of rhetoric, comb through threads regarding race issues. It usually boils down to blacks being lazy, irresponsible, not working hard enough, denying institutional inequality, leaching off of hard working whites. Yet studies show, that there is no difference between races and choices made, within the same income classes.

    There is simply no good compelling reason for blacks, as a whole, to vote for the R Party.
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    Why do the majority of latino voters vote (D)?
    70% of the Latino voted Dem in 2008 and the Cuban-Americans are starting to leave the (R) party as well.
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    You asked for Republicans. So your own comments don't count?
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    at this point, the question is: Why do the majority of every minority vote (D) Party?
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    Great non answer. And "Boring" no less. Lots of mental masturbation here to back up your flawed and destructive line of thinking.
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    Bring 'em. What comments are you specifically talking about. Examples rather than innuendo please?

    It's also kinda funny how black and white your world is. So, I'm a Republican now? Why, because I disagree with you on this specific issue? Ever read any of my comments re. Bush, the war in Iraq, the power of the financial services sector (that cuts both ways actually), market economies, etc? Are you capable of comprehending the concept that some people hold positions based solely on specific issues rather than party line?

    I get it, you are the latter. Just understand that a lot of us aren't.
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    I think it goes back to River's post on page 1. This concept of a quid pro quo, that somehow the (D)s will give you something and the (R)s will take it away. Classic spoils mentality that is utterly counterproductive to the health of this nation and society.

    What's interesting is how attached you are to this mentality.
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    your turn. when did I say that?

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