My Thoughts on the Winstongate Scandal

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    I would love to see him try. There are lawyers salivating. Sorry y'all:D
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    Yep, nothing to see here:rolleyes:
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    I saw the Rivera piece too.
    He argued that Winston would have been prosecuted in any place other than Tallahassee.
    Called Meggs a good ol boy and hinted at corruption.
    I imagine he will feature this on is own show.
    O'Reilly appeared to be sympathetic to the victim cause as well.
    I will upload the video if it shows up on the Fox News page.
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    That is a subtle threat intended to keep her quiet.

    I can assure you there will be no lawsuit by him.
    FSU sure doesn't want one.
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    Probably not true, but that would end up costing him a fortune and he would lose.
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    Somebody needs to tell our friend Jansen the old lawyers adage;
    "You won. Shut up. Sit down."
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    My bet is that this (Winston considering a lawsuit) is a rumor and nothing more. But, rumors like that are likely started by fans, who will support their 'hero' through thick and thin. But, man, even considering that this thing is murky and messy how can any fan really continue to support someone with such low moral character? I know I've been accused of standing on my high horse once or twice but as the father of a daughter I have a hard time with this one. That girl did some things that I hope my daughter will know better than to do (and we'll be having more talks on that subject together for sure) but the way that fan base came together to impugn her character is ugly, ugly.
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    Law 81
    With all that we now know from the reports, did Meggs make the right decision not to go to trial?
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    Agree. If he sued, the truth is a defense; thus, he will have to prove that she is not telling the truth. Tough hurdle.
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    He or someone on his staff had an opportunity to interview the victim.
    There is both incriminating and exculpatory evidence in the report.
    Sometimes, when you are talking to the witness, it is a gut call.
    Did they feel she really wanted this prosecuted?
    I don't know and we may never know.

    The issues here are much bigger than that.
    I think this scandal is a reflection of what is wrong in college athletics right now.
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    Thanks. I agree with you but I think what is wrong goes beyond college football.
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    I have not caught any of the interviews with his attorney since the announcement. Does he go unchallenged?
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    Did they even bother to test for roofies in her urine? Look at page 77 of the 248 page document. This is a UF letterhead from Dr. Goldberg who conducted a re-testing of the victim's urine last month. The document lists a huge assortment of drugs that they routinely check for. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see roofies (Flunitrazepam)— also known as Narcozep, Rohypnol, Rohipnol, and Roipnol on the list. Anyone see it listed anywhere? It is a benzodiazepine.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/189921841/Jameis-Winston-investigation-documents
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    Correct.
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    IMHO, yes--but mostly due to the high profile nature of the case.

    IOW, had this been a low profile run of the mill case, you file charges. Bluff the perp. into pleaing out.

    I often tell my clients that the threat of litigation can and often does carry more punch than actual litigation.

    That doesn't apply here, since TPD tipped off the perp., before gathering evidence, sat on their hands before processing it, and kept the perp's def. counsel in the loop of the "investigation", bought yhe perp all kinds of time to prep a def, all the while hanging the vic. out to dry. By the time this thing arrived at the SAO, it was DOA (you know, if an ambulance in Tallahassee pics up a patient in tallahassee, then drives to jacksonville before coming back to deliver patient to Tallhassee ER, it's not shocking when the patient is then a corpse).

    Bottom line--there was no hope of striking a plea bargain due to the stakes and the high profile nature of the case, since the evidence had been compromised....and not much hope at trial, since there were so many holes poked in the case due to TPD's *incompetence* (er, corruption), that if you played it through, it had acquittal written all over it.

    So no, not pursuing charges wasn't a mistake.

    Making a mockery of the system at the presser, compromisng the dignity of the process, and thereby the integrity of the office, was on the otherhand, an absoulte disgrace that will likely have more longterm repercussions, than filing charges ultimateley destined for aquittal.
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    How about GHB?
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    How did she get a

    You apparently have had this horrible act happen to you, and I too have three female friends it's happened to as well. Sorry you went though this.
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    Before my son left for UF I had a talk with him about girls and parties and alcohol. I told him to think of his sister in a similar situation. Would he want a predator to take advantage of his sister if she was drunk? Or would he want a protector that would drive her home and made sure she was safe and sound in her bed or would let her sleep in his bed while he slept on the couch.

    So the question is was Jameis (and Chris Casher) a predator or a protector? Would you want either one around your daughter?
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