My Thoughts on the Winstongate Scandal

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    Agree. The SAO is likely going to give him a pass. I'll be interested in their explanation.
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    If they were going to charge him, they would already have to have negotiated a surrender of JW before the press conference. The longer we hear that hasn't happened, the more likely it seems they aren't charging him.
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    Sort of my gut instinct as well, the flip side of "no reasonable jury could find them guilty" (i.e., could survive a motion for judgment of acquittal) - that is, that a reasonable jury could find the accused guilty - seems like a pretty rational standard to use in deciding whether to charge.
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    Yep, it's over. You don't announce a presser for the next day to say you're going to charge Winston with felony rape. The SAO will have a very carefully worded statement that they have been working on. At the core will probably be something about the 'poor likelihood of a conviction'........yada-yada-yada!

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...estigation-decision-to-come-thursday/3872419/
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    Casey Anthony is easily distinguished from JW--the pressure was on to prosecute; there was ZERO pressure not to prosecute. That mitigated the fall out from the acquittal.

    With JW, there is obviously a very strong, local, under current against prosecuting---which would significantly aggravate the fall out from acquittal.

    (Zman was a push; pretty much pressure from both/either side).

    As for 'integrity"--I hate to say it, but justice simply isn't served by pissing away hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, and tying up state resources....for an acquittal.
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    The one interesting note is the timing of it. FSU departs for the ACC championship game tomorrow night. I'm not going to try to read anything definitive into the timing of it, but that does mean announcing the charging decision shortly prior to the football team departing the state of Florida for the first time since this story broke.

    That said, my gut instinct is that he probably won't be charged. Who knows.
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    If he is not being charged why wait until 2?
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    Time for Meggs to make political hay by not charging the starting quarterback
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    Hell, if he is being charged, why wait till 2:00? Do the lawyers here anticipate that counsel for the defense has already been informed of the decision?
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    Those 2 cases prove FL juries are stupid. And this should be put before a jury, not in Tallahassee. I m sorry, but whether they win a conviction or not should be at the bottom of the equation. The public deserves to see the evidence and determine if he is a rapist or not.
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    I don't think that this necessarily means anything. If they're waiting until two, it's possible that they are waiting until paperwork is done, one way or the other. They couldn't arrest him before announcing charges that were not finalized yet anyway, right?
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    Why
    Why wait at all?
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    UFLaw. What is your thinking on why a presser?

    Imo the SAO has worked a deal with both sides that JW admits to a misdamenor charge, says he's sorry, and moves on. Victim gets an admission of wrong doing and doesn't have to take the stand, etc.
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    Now that makes perfect sense.
    Maybe suspended for the might blue devils, gets the big trophy and plays in the bsccg.
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    Excellent question. What do you think of this scenario? Meggs originally asserted that he would not be taking this case to a grand jury, but it's such a damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't decision, what if he's decided to re-evalute and punt after all? If he puts it before a grand jury, he has cover whether they decide to indict or not.
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    I don't think so, the way the victim's lawyer has come out swinging, but she just may want it all to go away, as much as it can for her.
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    Misdemeanor sexual assault? Is there such a thing?
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