My Thoughts on the Winstongate Scandal

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    Hearing that they are not going to charge him. Does that really surprise anyone.
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    We all knew it from the beginning, FSU's golden boy is too big to charge.
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    Don't you think he should be charged w something before he is suspended?
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    I am hearing that they are waiting after the ACC championship to make the decision.
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    Im hearing that they are waiting until after he graduates or moves on to the NFL to make a decision.
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    Maybe they can have the Gainesville Police Department review it. Im sure they will sentence him to life in prison for such a deed. 50 years to life for the false statements too.
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    So who are you hearing that from ? An informed person, or just water cooler talk ?
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    Hearing that they are going to charge him.

    So now we have two people talking about what they're hearing, neither one saying where they're hearing what they say they're hearing and neither providing a reputable source. Perhaps we should move on.
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    fwiw:

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ton-ruling-likely-after-acc-championship-game

    The State Attorney's Office probably needs the next two weeks or longer before deciding whether to bring charges against the Florida State quarterback, assistant state attorney of the Second Judicial Circuit Georgia Cappleman told CBSSports.com on Tuesday.
    "It's mostly likely (after next week)," Cappleman said.
    The state attorney is waiting on evidence that hasn't yet arrived, said Cappleman, who declined comment on specifics of the investigation.

    What kind of evidence could that be?
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    This thing is so strange.
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    http://distinctathlete.com/jameis-winston-will-facing-charges-sources-say/

    Friend on FB posted it not sure how true or not.....
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    According to f$u sites they are awaiting confirmed records from social media sites showing comments she made about how wonderful Winston was, how she loved football, and pics of them together before and after the date of the incident.
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    If that is true (that she had a prior existing relationship with JW despite her attorney's assetions to the contrary), then it almost doesn't matter if JW raped her or not. That major inconsistency alone seems like enough for the SA not to charge. However, I must say again that I will be very surprised if the latest FSU narrative ends up being correct simply because the accuser's lawyer was so emphatic that her client had not met JW until the night in question. If there is evidence to the contrary, then that was an incredibly stupid thing to put out there. The attorney of the accused can change stories and not lose much credibility (as we have seen), but the accuser generally needs to be consistent across the board.
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    IMO, the timeline doesn't add up for his side. His defenders supposedly claim that on Dec. 7th, 2012, they (JW and the accuser) knew each other beforehand and afterward, she found out his real GF was coming into town on the next day, it pissed her off, she decided to claim rape, did the rape kit, but had second thoughts about naming him directly, and made up an unknown, less than 6 foot tall assailant. Then, 3 to 5 weeks pass, she apparently changes her mind again and wants revenge for just being the other woman (I assume that's the motive they assign to her), and she directly identifies JW as her rapist. (For some odd reason, this information does not seem to be amended to the original report).

    That doesn't make sense. Why would she wait that long to positively id him and get her revenge? What changed her mind during that time period? If they knew each other all along and others knew of their relationship, how would she think that she could get away with naming him at that point in time? She would know there would be witnesses and perhaps, photographs of them together on days other than Dec. 7th. That would place herself in danger of filing a false report. To alleviate that predicament, all she had to do was keep quiet and not name him as the perpetrator and the whole thing would just blow over because there was no easily identifiable suspect to pursue.

    No, it seems more logical that she didn't know who he was from the beginning as the initial report indicates. Within those subsequent 3 to 5 weeks, she found out who he was and went back to the police and positively identified him. That's when the TPD apparently dropped the ball (or built a stonewall) and did not even bother to interview JW.
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    If Meggs announces he is not prosecuting, he will say there is not enough evidence to support a conviction. He will never say anything negative about the victim.
    This will not necessarily end the case. The Justice department and the NCAA still have jurisdiction AND a special prosecutor can be appointed by the Governor.
    An investigation of the TPD will likely be turned over to FDLE and the AG.
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    Additional toxicology reports.
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    But it can't be something like toxicology reports--that might mean Winston is going to be charged and most of the f$u'ers say there is no way that can happen :D
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    See, the thing is, a university investigation is separate for and does not have to meet the same criteria as a criminal case for a conclusion to be reached. A campus investigation can determine culpability of both parties and chose to censor an athlete for inappropriate behavior without calling or being guilty of rape. They have a lower threshhold, if you will. But FSU didnt investigate jack crap. Had they, they may have decided it appropriate to suspend him a game or two, and await further action pending the criminal investigation. Its ok for you to disagree. Iprefer the hardline though.
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    Hate to say I was right, but I called this. He gets charged on 12/9/13 and manages a plea before the BCSCG. Mark my words.
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